I would say they share the blame. From the first camera angle I would say Vettel went too quick back to the racing line, but the next shot shows Karthikeyan turning into Vettel as well.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
Sad they let the drivers change tires before the restart, I'm pretty sure nothing would've changed but who knows... Good race today. What the hell was Lewis thinking? :Dby AcE_cOdEr - F1
I don't know if drivers are supposed to know the entire rulebook word by word, but certainly Red Bull should've been more aware. I can understand Vettel's reaction, even though I don't share it.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
dude that move was cloooseby AcE_cOdEr - F1
chet escribió: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I said previous, I expect and will accept this > later on in the season. > > The whole point about this is why... why so > early? > > As I said, I hope Alonso suffers a number of > engine failures from now if only to show Ferrari > they cant tell the future! > > Nothing isby AcE_cOdEr - F1
rapid_f1 escribió: ------------------------------------------------------- > to be fair to ferrari, they couldnt plead guilty > could they as then they know they will get a > penalty. by pleading not guilty, they hope to get > off on a technicality, i.e. they didnt give a > direct ream order, they simply told massa that > fernando was faster, and massa, for the good of &by AcE_cOdEr - F1
as much as I disagree with the way Ferrari did things on sunday, i think Alonso lost his position to Massa on the start because of Vettel's maneuver, even though it's true that Felipe started like a freakin rocket. i have mixed feelings regarding the race. glad to see a Ferrari 1-2 but not the way they did it. And I would've liked to see Alonso overtaking Felipe on the track.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
vesuvius escribió: ------------------------------------------------------- > true but they wouldnt have shown green lights if > racing wouldnt have been allowed! and i'm pretty sure that's what makes the difference between the SC pitting to avoid being in the finish-line pics and the SC pitting 'cause its job is done. the 'weird' thing in the second caseby AcE_cOdEr - F1
i'm a big fan of alonso but i think the green flags speak for themselves thoughby AcE_cOdEr - F1
where's the SC line anyway?by AcE_cOdEr - F1
i'm still doubting about the advantage of the red bulls. at the beginning of the race i don't know if alonso was giving the best out of him or if he was just staying 3-4 secs behind on purpose and keeping an eye on Vettel. anyway Vettel's a sure contender for the world title.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
DJSKYLINE escribió: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Massa imo is going to get cooked, even at one of > his good tracks he was beaten by a good margin. > i think Massa had been saving fuel for a big bunch of laps so actually he may be a little bit closer to Alonso than it seems toby AcE_cOdEr - F1
Can't believe Nelsinho got away just like that, without a fine or something.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
marwood82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > phantaman Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Nickv Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > You're hopeless... > > > > > > PROVE that Alonso knew of it. Show evidenceby AcE_cOdEr - F1
IWE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Richards to Renault?" > > hp?fes_art_id=39028 > > That would be great! And even better would be if > Alonso gets banned for year or 2.. Well you really hate the guy :Dby AcE_cOdEr - F1
Piquet Jr himself said that Alonso wasn't involved. If Alonso was in fact involved i can't see the reason why Jr didn't expose him as well.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
phantaman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nickv Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > I see a bitter Piquet fan. > > your mistake... i'm a fan of what is considered by > many people one of the great drivers. > > AYRTON SENNA DA SILVA > > looks like i'm defendby AcE_cOdEr - F1
Sauber89 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Renault suspended from European GP > > Renault has been suspended from the European Grand > Prix for the events that led to a wheel coming off > Fernando Alonso's car in Hungary today. > > Following a post-race discussion with the > stewards, it was deemed that the team had breachedby AcE_cOdEr - F1
ralv585 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So er, who's on pole? Alonso might have it, but nothing sureby AcE_cOdEr - F1
DaveEllis Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > AcE_cOdEr Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Barrichello claimed he lost something from the > > back of his car, that's what they're saying on > > spanish TV > > > Parts of the rear suspension was missing. The rest > of the wby AcE_cOdEr - F1
Barrichello claimed he lost something from the back of his car, that's what they're saying on spanish TVby AcE_cOdEr - F1
anze89 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OMG! I'm already annoyed at what you keepn on > saying...WE DON'T KNOW THE REAL REASONS FOR THE > DECISION TAKEN so why you keep on saying it was > illegal? > > because any employee that has info about > competition will use that info to gain advantage sure, but i agree with calimbby AcE_cOdEr - F1
anze89 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > if mclaren driver wins WC this year it will be the > 1st WC won with officially illegal car. and that would go totally against the sport nature.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
leopoon91 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A question is that why McLaren crews packed up all > their things in the garage? (if the drivers can > still collect points) Drivers can collect points, but for sure not with the McLaren since it's illegal. Well, that's how i see it.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
we'll have to wait to the official statement to know the exact reasons.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
I think we'll never know if they did use it or didn't. The only whing we all know is that McLaren was in posession of an information that it mustn't have.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
Joe_Satriani Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > calimbo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > BBC just said > > > > 100,000,000 Million dollars > > Out of 2007 constructors championship > > drivers will keep their points > > No team member can get to the podium to receive >by AcE_cOdEr - F1
Joe_Satriani Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What I could see happening, is Mercedes buying > ProDrive and racing under their own banner in > 2008. That sounds logical, though it looks impossible to happen in 2008 IMO.by AcE_cOdEr - F1
Joe_Satriani Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe Lewis, if they find out that he did have > knowledge on the whole thing and didn't cooperate. > He could lose his super license according to some > reports. Yeah... but I don't think Lewis will let something like this to ruin his F1 career when he's got such a talent and heby AcE_cOdEr - F1
Hm... Fernando and Lewis don't have anything to do with this spy thing, although if McLaren is proven guilty then it's true that they have been taking advantage from illegal cars, however any of them can't be punished, can they?by AcE_cOdEr - F1