QuoteJ i m That moment for Kimi... Had me clearing up a puddle on my sofa. That is the most scared I've been since Burti crashed at Spa in 2001. Not just Kimi, but when Vettel went to spin back around and we could see a car climbing the hill, I was cacking myself. I literally covered my face, and I can't say I've ever done that watching motorsport. We were also so, so close tby gav - F1
I do wonder if Seb is feeling the supposed pressure of being a Ferrari driver. The Seb of 2016 isn't the Seb that we know, he's been cranky all the way through the season, worsening as the season develops. He was always willing to say what he feels, but it was usually constructive. We know underneath that jovial exterior (much, much less of that in 2016) that he was hard as anyone anby gav - F1
The race was a bit meh. Some of the racing behind was quite good, but largely down to a difference of tyres and strategy. I watched C4's highlights last night (as I couldn't find a download at that point) and I'm glad I did. Start and first few laps > cut to first pit stops > cut to second pit stops > a bit of action as strategies played out at the end of the race.by gav - F1
Wrong thread, but case in point last night. Alonso's move was worse than Rosberg's in that damage was done and it forced both drivers off track, but I quote Brundle: QuoteMartin Brundle I think that was very, very opportunistic there from Fernando and bang on frankly, literally, and very good.by gav - F1
QuoteEC83 Are you meaning in terms of a commentator presenting the facts in a particular way to suit his opinion, instead of just saying how he feels about a particular driver? I think that's the way Brundle came across in Sepang, yes. Not so much facts, as it nearly entirely comes down to opinion, but he always says in low speed contact which results in no damage (either time or physicalby gav - F1
QuoteEC83 I didn't detect any obvious signs that Brundle had begun to dislike Rosberg and let it influence his commentary, but even if he has, I don't particularly see it as a bad thing - James Hunt was biased as hell in his commentaries, and nobody holds it against him. :p As I said, it's not the bias that bothers me, it's the hidden nature of it. I mentioned Murray and Coby gav - F1
Are you referring to Rosberg and Raikkonen at Sepang? It's a tricky one. Obviously in touring cars that would be deemed a brilliant move, but I can understand why he was punished. I didn't agree with it, but I can understand it, as it was a touch rough. I thought Brundle's stance on the matter was extremely interesting though. He, without fail, comes out with the line you sby gav - F1
Cracking race. Good comeback by Hamilton and Verstappen was naughty again. Probably lucky from his point of view that he only needed to do it once and will avoid a penalty, but I detest people moving in the braking zone. Edit: Forgot, Ferrari destroyed what should have been a podium at the very least and probably a 3rd and 4th. Good pace, only a tenth or 2 slower than Mercedes until the lasby gav - F1
He's been a bit silly, as he's prone to being, but nothing too serious or as controversial as has been made out. I think the worst thing he did was show how immature he still is - he's a 31 year old man posting silly snapchat pics during a press conference!by gav - F1
QuoteMuks_C Steve Jones has done a good job and seems more natural and entertaining than Simon, and his banter with DC is good. I thought Steve Jones was going to be absolutely terrible (but ideal for the audience Channel 4 said they wanted to attract) but I agree, he's been damn good. He's still says the odd cringeworthy thing, but that's to be expected, and he comes across asby gav - F1
Looks great. We had a random Renault appear not so far away in 2007. I couldn't even work out which model it was, it that old, but I half remember thinking it was perhaps the 2001 dog. They had a series of "sims" running in multiplayer too (I think it was F1 Challenge) which my cousin won (I'm more a GPx and GPL man, obviously ) and won a mini Heikki Kovalainen helmet, whicby gav - F1
I thought Magnussen's spin was weird too. When the slow-mo from the outside came I expected to see a punctured tyre, but it looked fine and I couldn't even see any marks, so I doubt it was that. There was plenty of compression on the suspension, but the left-front looked normal, so I guess that's just how a 2016 car looks when it comes over the top of Raidillon. I guess itby gav - F1
Sickening accident for Magnussen. As Morbid said it sounds like no broken bones, but I bet he'll be stiff in the morning. Hopefully he'll be fit for Monza - I suppose it's good that it's not too demanding a track physically, but it will give that ankle a good workout on the brake pedal. It was a shame, as he, like Palmer, was having a decent weekend and both were goingby gav - F1
Nearly the mother of all accidents between Gutierrez and Wehrlein a few minutes ago. Terrible driving from Gutierrez. Absolutely terrible.by gav - F1
QuoteGP2tifoso28 Lets not forget Silverstone 2013, tyres of Formula 1's creation exploding at high speed with objects flying though the air and drivers in open cockpit cars. Not once was a red flag shown, and not once in the aftermath was cockpit protection discussed No, I don't think we discussed it back then. Chilton did hit get a tyre (thankfully without the wheel!) in his face tby gav - F1
QuoteEricMoinet In fact after Monaco and Wendlinger accident the same year. I can't check at the moment, but I seem to recall only Sauber voluntarily introduced higher side protection in the wake of Wendlinger's crash. But you're right, I never mentioned anything about mandated cockpit sides, so it was indeed started after Wendlinger's crash. The regulation for all teaby gav - F1
QuoteGP2tifoso28 Bianchi was a freak accident. The combination of no safety car being deployed, Bianchi entering too fast, a foreign industrial vehicle being placed on track, dangerously low levels of light to accommodate ideal European TV ratings, and Bianchi sadly entering the danger zone at the speed and angle in which he did, all effectively combined to create a worst case scenario. You saby gav - F1
Today in Pocono Helio Castroneves literally took Rossi's indycar in the face. Are these all freak accidents? The only freak here is that Helio Castroneves wasn't seriously injured. QuoteBrad Keselowski I don't want to lose anymore friends and colleagues to accidents we know how to fix. Halos please.by gav - F1
QuoteSchueyFan No guarantee the halo would have blocked the spring from hitting Massa, or even, albeit less likely, the debris that hit Wilson. The halo perhaps not, but it would have given them a chance. The canopy obviously would. Why would you not want that protection?by gav - F1
They are trying to introduce it for the lower FIA formula too. That is one of the reason why it has been delayed. QuoteGP2tifoso28 Bianchi was a freak accident. No it wasn't. I've said this time and time again. He aquaplaned on exactly the same piece of water that Sutil lost control on, and once he lost control he was always going to end up in roughly the same barrier as Sutiby gav - F1
Henry Surtees, Justin Wilson, Dan Wheldon and Jules Bianchi were all killed through head injuries, as well as Massa being seriously injured. The halo/canopy wouldn't have saved Bianchi and it almost certainly wouldn't have saved Wheldon, but that's still 3 deaths or injuries that would have been prevented or the effects minimised had a device been in place. The only time an anby gav - F1
Vettel slowed a lap early at the finish. :Dby gav - F1
I've no idea whether the cars will look any different. I suspect where possible they'll try to keep a lower centre of gravity, and as such the height of the sidepod edges may be a little lower, but it's going to be hard to change too much as the PU and radiators are still going to be quite bulky.by gav - F1
Yup, though it actually looks odd with such fat sidewalls. Much meatier and a bit more old school, but I think a modern F1 car would look better with the larger wheels/smaller diameter tyres that were discussed, and I never thought I'd say that. The wider rear wing looks much better too.by gav - F1
I just thought he braked really late (which he clearly did, knowing he needed to pounce quickly) and didn't think he could have made the corner had he turned in earlier (he'd have likely locked up and slammed into Verstappen or spun into him). It's not the sort of move Hamilton pulls or indeed the one Rosberg pulled in Austria, I just thought it was a ballsy move up the inside, soby gav - F1
Further to Morbid's comment, if those drivers were allowed to race (would be the stupidest decision yet to not allow them!), they, according to the written rules, have to start at the back, which would mean both Red Bulls, both Force Indias and Bottas starting at the rear of the field along with those eliminated in Q3. Clearly they aren't going to invoke that rule given the plethora ofby gav - F1
Quotekedy89 and they're being pussies once again. Just put it in the rules already: "no driving in wet conditions"... I couldn't disagree more. It was undriveable before they went green and it was undriveable when they threw the first red when it rained again. Completely ignoring the track conditions themselves, if the camera can't pick out the car it is trying toby gav - F1
Seems that Imola has signed an agreement with Bernie, but this still needs approval from Angelo Sticchi Damiani, the president of the Automobile Club d'Italia, who so far has supported Monza. As fun as Imola is to drive (though I've never enjoyed watching racing there) I'll not be happy if Monza goes.by gav - F1
Oh and these gearbox and upcoming PU penalties need changing too. Someone on Channel 4 at the weekend suggested taking away a constructors point rather than a grid penalty, which is a much better way of punishment without destroying the prospect of the race. Driver errors should be punished with grid penalties (such as the one that stopped Schumacher getting pole in Monaco in 2012 after his Bby gav - F1
Yup, get rid of the settings and modes and engine maps. They need a throttle, brake and clutch, a steering wheel and a gear changing mechanism (I'm happy for them to keep paddles for gears), a radio switch and perhaps a brake balance lever. Add lights to shift gear and ones for flags (yellow, blue, red etc) and they're sorted. Let the pit crew monitor tyre pressures. If a car hasby gav - F1