Graphics Card Help

Posted by IanWackett 
Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 01:18PM
Posted by: IanWackett
I am looking to replace my old 32MB GeForce2 MX 400 (AGP). If I had the money I would buy a 256MB Radeon 9800XT but I am not willing to pay £300-£400 on a graphics card.
What I am looking for is 128MB graphics card for around £100-£200. Can someone give a good idea of a good, powerful and reliable graphics card for that price?

Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 01:26PM
Posted by: Pako
NVIDIA Geforce 4 MX 440 - £30 in PC World - Awesome!!!

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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 01:40PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
For £200 you might be able to get a 9700 pro, or a 9500 pro, or a Nvidia 5700 maybe.



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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 01:58PM
Posted by: jginete
get a 9700 pro.

thay are awesome



Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 02:38PM
Posted by: Glyn
NVIDIA Geforce 4 MX 440 - £30 in PC World - Awesome!!!

*cough* *cough* *cough* :)

If your on a budget, the ATI cards are much better value for money. The 9600 XT is meant to be pretty good.



Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 04:37PM
Posted by: Ianwoollam
I've just bought a ATi Radeon 9600XT, great value at only £100 I thought :) cause I'm upgrading for a new computer, virtually all my parts were upgraded, except the processor/mobo. so atm I've got 1024MB PC3200 DDR Ram, that GFX card, DVD RW, Hercules Game Theatre XP 7.1, 160GB Hard Drive, but a 1.2Ghz Processor still :S.

I didn't expect much change at all, but I was shocked! :-o When I went to play Call Of Duty for the first time, bearing in mind with my old GeForce4 MX 440, I couldn't get it to work smooth at all, even at lowest GFX at 800x600 :( then this arrived! Now I can run maximum graphics at 1024x768 GFX :o not a lag in site :| even tho I've still got a 1.2Ghz Processor.

In GP4, before I played it with adequate graphics, and got 25FPS, after the GFX card arrived, after a few teething problems :) I got it to work 1260x1024 everything Max, with 35FPS :-o

Hopefully this weekend, I'm going back down to Overclockers to buy myself a AMD 64 :D dread to think how fast my PC will go with that in it, after seeing the speed its going with my slow 1.2Ghz processor in :|

But now I can say! I'm prepared for Half Life 2 :D



Post Edited (01-12-04 23:38)


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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 04:49PM
Posted by: bazza
I have a Radeon 9800 128mb, a similar oen to this:

[www.ebuyer.com]

Or if £202 is a bit much, then the one Ian mentioned is well worth it.

[www.ebuyer.com]

This one comes with the Half-life 2 voucher. Retail Lite versions do not.

Baz

Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 04:52PM
Posted by: MysticalCrayon
i have a radeon 9600xt but the bastards stole my half life 2 coupon/code thing

ill have to go and see them about that

oh yeah and ian..does overdrive work for you?



Post Edited (01-12-04 23:52)
Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 05:00PM
Posted by: Ellis
Get a GeForce 4 Ti. they are amazngly cheep for ammount it gives and can be overclocked




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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 05:27PM
Posted by: Ianwoollam
oh yeah and ian..does overdrive work for you?

Ain't tried yet :| not really too confident on overclocking, if thats what your on about? ;)

Does anyone know how much this card is ment to be able to overclocked? think my core speed is at 475Mhz atm :|

I got my card at www.overclockers.co.uk, £10 cheaper ^_^



Post Edited (01-13-04 00:29)


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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 06:17PM
Posted by: MysticalCrayon
475? =[ mine is 499 the default retail core speed is 500 i believe

also overdrive is in the control panel it doesnt void your warranty and it does it all automatically its just a box you tick ...strange thing is MINE IS NOT THERE! :(



Post Edited (01-13-04 02:50)
Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 07:52PM
Posted by: MysticalCrayon
well i read some saphire cards do not support it i believe mine is powercolor as i got angel of darkness and big mutha truckers but i didnt get half life 2 coupon thing

Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 12, 2004 10:49PM
Posted by: villej
buy radeon 9800.
or 9700pro if you can find it somewhere.




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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 02:39AM
Posted by: Glyn
Ain't tried yet :| not really too confident on overclocking, if thats what your on about?

Does anyone know how much this card is ment to be able to overclocked? think my core speed is at 475Mhz atm :|


That card can be heavily overclocked apparently. Its basically a 9700 I think thats been underclocked (its the same with most low end cards, they make lots of high end cards with high tolorances, and the ones that dont pass are used as low end ones), so you should be able to crank the speed up quite a bit. Keep an eye on system temperatures though, and if you start seeing dodgy errors in games, you've gone too far.



Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 02:41AM
Posted by: Ianwoollam
I haven't enev started, and I'm already getting weird ripping textures in F1C, thats the only problem I've found so far, I'm hoping tho its got summat to do with my Windows installation or my Motherboard. If not, I'm screwed :S




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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 02:44AM
Posted by: Glyn
Its not ripping textures you get from too much heat, its where you get white polygons appearing all over the place.

You'll know if you see it trust me, especially in an FPS



Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 03:50AM
Posted by: -qwerty-
Why overclock?! Its a great card as it is. Once you need to overclock it, then do it. Right now, what's the point?

If you have a 1.2 ghz athlon xp and its 266fsb (which it should be) you can upgrade to a xp 2400 (2.06ghz :D ) for around £60-70, without changing your motherboard, as after 2400 amd used 333 fsb. It'd be good for another year or so that way. Plus then you'll be able to upgrade once Windows XP 64bit version is released, and that AMD 64 will be much cheaper, plus pci express etc will be available.



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Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 04:33AM
Posted by: Glyn
Well it depends on how much more oomf you've got from the processor and memory, so you might need to overclock to run that higher detail setting.

Also, would you rather game at 25fps, or overclock and enjoy 50fps? I know which I'd rather do.



Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 06:10AM
Posted by: bazza
I'm for overclocking too. My xp2500+ runs absolutely fine at xp3200+ speeds. I've not overclocked my radeon 9800 though, because I have no need with the games I play. Call of Duty I get a minimum of 200fps, Spearhead I get a minimum of 150, nr2003 with tptcc 2.1 runs at 40fps at the start and then from 50-70 on gotzenburg-ring. All with max-details :D

Re: Graphics Card Help
Date: January 13, 2004 06:33AM
Posted by: Ianwoollam
Just overclocked my Radeon, overclocked the core to 560Mhz and the Memory to 330Mhz, seems to be running ok, with no problems.

Just been reading up that apparantly the P4 Extreme Edition is better than the AMD 64. Only problem is thats about £500, so they can shove that where the sun don't shine ;)

The big speed advantage of the AMD 64 on 32 bit systems will be the 1MB of L2 Cache. as the processor itself is only 2Ghz. Yet when Microsoft do decide to release Windows 64, Jon says that it'll go upto 4Ghz, but I don't beleive him ;)




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