Processor V Grafix Card

I've just been browsing the gp3 forum, and theres a post regarding fps. Now someone mentioned that as gp3 has 2d scenery, the processor is responsible for most of the graphics. Now, it seems that for gp4, the processor is also responsible for the 3d graphics, as well as the 2d ones. I thought that gp4 had a completely new grafix engine, and whilst cosmetically it's new, it's the same chugger under the bonnet. I don't know if anyone has touched on this before, but it seems rather than streamline the grafix, gp4 heps most of it on the poor processor, making the game one hungry bitch

It is known all too well already. Down deep at this core the game still has the "good" (so to say) old code of GP2.
Or, if you like better, Crammond's programming skill never evolved anymore since GP2.
Or, in the end, he just did not notice over the years that some guys in the USA established a company named Nvidia.

lol

wel we can't do nething about it can we? :p



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I can't agree with you guys; I recently changed my old GF2 MX with GF4 ti4200, and it was an amazing improvement even on my old Athlon 1ghz. In the same time my friend changed his Athlon 1ghz to 1,533, with new motherboard, but left his GF2, and it wasn't such improvement. BTW, we both use Win98, and had almost indentical configurations before...
It seems to me that new graphic card will do biger boost than new processor...

Well, to be fair a jump from a gt2 to a gf4 Ti is a major leap in speed. As I've just said in the thread on the gp3 forum, a newer gfx card can help the proccessor deal with a lot of 2d bitmaps much more easily and eficiently than a GF2 mx can.
Of course they'll be a huge improvement, gp4 is a brand new gfx engine....and because the computer world is advancing so quickly, I think GC tried to make use of as much of current pcs performance as was possible. If you remember, few people could run gp2 or 3 maxed out gfxwise simply because of its higher specs.

But they had better coding and programming....



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he just did not notice over the years that some guys in the USA established a company named Nvidia.

LOL!

What you have to remember is that most programmers either specalise in graphics or the other thing. Graphics programming is VERY complicated on a professional level and thats why Geoff cant cope with T&L, bump mapping, envriomental effects etc. Thats why other people do it for him, and god what an excellent job they did - go on, admit it!

True....but my only issue is that F1 2002 doesnt look much worse, with much lower needed specs.



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Yes, but as LS said in another forum, EA can use the physics to make an ice skating game :P




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Jesus may be able to heal the sick and bring the dead back to life, but he can't do shît for low fps

That can be changed by 3rd party, but the graphics engine can't.



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I have two PC's with PIII I Ghz, and Geforce 4 Ti4200, and VIA 694T based chipset motherboard with 256M RAM. I used to have Voodoo 3 3000 and Voodoo 3 2000 in these machines, and VIA 693 base chipset.

With Grand Prix 3_2000, upgrading the motherboard and graphics card made little difference to the PO. Obviously GP3_2000 was not abale to use the additional memory bandwidth performance of the VIA 694T chipset, or the additional performance of the Geforce 4.


GP4 is an entirely different matter. Changing to the GEforce 4 gave a massive performance improvement and reduction in PO. It was also noticeable that changing the motherboard also gave a performance improvement.

The conclusion is therefore clear that GP4 benefits from both increased memory bandwidth on the motherboard and increased performance from the GEFORCE 4 graphics card.

I have to disagree about F12002 looking nearly as good - it just doesn't, at least on my Ti4600 it's kind of grainy & GP4 just looks the business.

Phil

we need an app to c wot the processor is doin wen, but i think GP4 still has a lot of compatibility probs

I once posted comparison shots between F12k2 and GP4. When you compare them GP4 clearly does look best.

I'm just bitter that i have an SiS 730 integrated chipset and not a dogs b******s card like a GF4, can't afford it cos i'm startin uni goddamit

Whats your max budget? You'll be suprised what you can get for little money.

Beg to differ with you Neil,

"thats why Geoff cant cope with T&L, bump mapping, envriomental effects etc."

Geoff Crammond is to "F1" what Sid Meir is to "Civilisation"

Geoffs 'Peice de' Resistance' is the reflections. Apparently he spent a lot of time on this(maybe wasted as i guess a lot of us turn it off or way down!!).

I think the language GP4 is coded in is Assembler. This is one step above machine language so I can't understand why it is so cpu intensive.



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Michael, tell me why its all so proccessor intensive if GC is such a great programmer of modern gfx effects? Surely if he could do it that well they'd run more efficiently?!
Every programmer specialises in a certain area. I don't think he's responsible for T&L etc. Just physics and AI.



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My budget is wotever i can persuade my father to buy for the pc, but i'm looking at a gf2 ti

That's not at all bad.



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Its quite able to deal with games of modern standard.



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