New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 04:19PM
Posted by: _Erix_
Driver-spec helmets were on Madman's list but he's got other things on his mind and may never return to the gp4 community again. We were lucky that he gave us the right data to do this trick. I also have a tweaker dll that does the job. I think I'm the only one that has it, besides Madman. However, this dll is not compatible with the carsenabler/slipstream/visors tweak.



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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 04:29PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
_Erix_ Wrote:
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> the carsenabler/slipstream/visors tweak.

The what? O_o




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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 04:32PM
Posted by: <Maverick>
_Erix_ Wrote:
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> I think I'm
> the only one that has it, besides Madman.


Think again :+

Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 04:47PM
Posted by: fongu
_Erix_ Wrote:
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However,
> this dll is not compatible with the
> carsenabler/slipstream/visors tweak.



Is the dll that enables these in the gp4.gamer.nl pack?


Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 05:14PM
Posted by: Enzojz
I've got a mpeg of showing kind of this months before , via Vizu.
Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: March 29, 2005 05:27PM
Posted by: <Maverick>
fongu Wrote:
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> _Erix_ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> However,
> > this dll is not compatible with the
> > carsenabler/slipstream/visors tweak.
>
>
>
> Is the dll that enables these in the gp4.gamer.nl
> pack?


yes it is, but the one that enables the 3d wheels and arms isn't, thats also the reason the movement is not as mauch as we hoped, because we had to edit the execautble to make them work, instead of using a dll



Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 09:44AM
Posted by: mckey415
can someone please provide me with instructions how to create 3d external steering wheel? seems that cockpit_wheel.gp4 is the file to edit, but i couldn't open it in zm. but i can open it with gp4genius and see objects names in it. if i create my own cockpit_wheel with zm and with the same object strcture will it work?

thanks in advance...

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 10:20AM
Posted by: Button14
u need to make the steering wheel in zmod and save it with the helmet shape lod so its all one object

Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 11:02AM
Posted by: mckey415
uhh... i think that wheel movements will be wrong this way...

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 11:10AM
Posted by: <Maverick>
yes, and thats where hex editing will solve your problems :+

Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 11:25AM
Posted by: Lord Kamder
this is the new 3d st.wheel+arms model for our 92 mod :) (mclaren)






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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 12:02PM
Posted by: mckey415
and so join hands/wheel with helmet is the only way of creating 3d external steering wheel?

@maverick:
can you please be more concrete or give me a link if this question was discussed earlier?

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 12:06PM
Posted by: <Maverick>
This is a file offset from gp4.exe version 1.02 decripted (taken from gpgames):

0009E11F A1 14 6F 87 00
0009E0BE 8B 0D 16 6F 87 00
0009E0C4 8B 15 18 6F 87 00

Replace with:

0009E11F B8 00 00 00 00
0009E0BE B9 00 00 00 00 90
0009E0C4 BA 00 0 00 00 90

If you apply them all, the helmet movement will freeze. You can use selective movement. The 1st row is for x-axis, 2nd for y-axis, and 3rd is for z-axis.



Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 12:13PM
Posted by: mckey415
so i wasn't right when i said that cockpit_wheel.gp4 is external steering wheel file?

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 12:22PM
Posted by: Lord Kamder
yes, cockpit_wheel.gp4 is the internal one


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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 01:00PM
Posted by: mckey415
and what is cockpit.gp4?
any suggestions why cockpit_wheel is uneditable? maybe because it contains arms? (stupid suggesstion :-))

@lord kamder:
how do you deploy or plan to deploy your arms ingame(btw - it looks great!)?

i think that freeze helmets movements is not good idea. have anybody played around with this settings? with which of them helmet and steering movements are looks most real?

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Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 01:41PM
Posted by: Gabe_Logan
hi guys!
i don't know how you can do it, but you are fantastic!
Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 01:56PM
Posted by: <Maverick>
mckey415 Wrote:
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> i think that freeze helmets movements is not good
> idea. have anybody played around with this
> settings? with which of them helmet and steering
> movements are looks most real?


just disable Zaxis movement and everything should work. thats how we did it in the gp4.gamer.nl carset.

Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 03:34PM
Posted by: Viju
<Maverick> Wrote:
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> This is a file offset from gp4.exe version 1.02
> decripted (taken from gpgames):
>
> 0009E11F A1 14 6F 87 00
> 0009E0BE 8B 0D 16 6F 87 00
> 0009E0C4 8B 15 18 6F 87 00
>
> Replace with:
>
> 0009E11F B8 00 00 00 00
> 0009E0BE B9 00 00 00 00 90
> 0009E0C4 BA 00 0 00 00 90
>
> If you apply them all, the helmet movement will
> freeze. You can use selective movement. The 1st
> row is for x-axis, 2nd for y-axis, and 3rd is for
> z-axis.
>
>
> where do you actually "DO" all these settings ??

is there a special program to edit the EXE or is it to be done in tweaker itself ? i jus wasnt able to get the 3d arms into IMG cos of this that i didnt actually know where to put those values what i saw in gp4tweaker forums, and you were exclusively committed to gp4.gamer.nl which is quite understandable :) .... 3d arms with IMG cockpits can be a great thing afa i see.

thanks :)
>






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2005 03:36PM by Viju.
Re: New 3D Steering Wheel & Arms (Beta Testing)
Date: April 15, 2005 03:52PM
Posted by: _Erix_
In the Settigns folder is a fle called patch.ini. It contains the code to patch gp4.exe (1.02) to limit the helmet movement. You can put that file in any carset you like or update your patch.ini with it's strings.

The trick is to build a steering wheel and arms/hands and add it to the helmet object of the gp4 helmet. Luca has shown a perfect example of how it's done!

As soon as I can login to my ftp I will put the tweaker files online, it may be handy for mods that do not use the slipstream effect and carsenabler.



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