The future of GPX-Racing
Posted by rdexter
i know what u mean.. and ur not the only one who think about that... but if those guys can´t no make a track editor i guess we gotta wait a bit or see what sony can bring it out
Isn't there anyone at all who can create the track-editor?
uhm?? no offence man but try doing it your self...
I think if anyone can do it. Its the great programmers who are on this forum. Don't think anyone is closer to finding the solution than Lo2k , madman and prolly a lot more ppl that aren't mentioned.
If I had any idea other than just experiment with 3Deditor and hope for the best I would help out
but i'm just not capable to
If I had any idea other than just experiment with 3Deditor and hope for the best I would help out
but i'm just not capable to Hmm, it's right of course that GP4 modding is quite slow and the difficulties to bring you a full track editor adds to this.
Without going into too much details, tracks are composed of multiple files and the most important one is track's physical definition stored in the .dat files.
I can't by myself tried to change every byte of these file to know what they does (because, that's the only way to understand how to create/modify tracks) and that's why i built the .dat part of 3DEditor.
The goal was to give you a full access to all the file, affording everyone knowledge already gather by GP3 track makers and an easy way to edit the files graphically without having any hexadecimal knowledge.
So Beostar, you know what you have to do :
Just open a dat, change 1 and only one value, save the file and try the game to see what changed. Anybody can do this.
Of course it will crash GP4 sometimes but copy/paste original .dat file will make everything ok again.
About future, and appart tracks physical side, i'm currently working on a much better .gp4 files editing allowing more modifications in materials and 3D objects properties as Normals, and every other datas stored in .gp4 files.
And much can be done in the graphical area, better textures, new objects, better mappings...
Car mods are still alive and independant data modification bring by Madman in GP4Tweaker will allow much more things in future (different wheelbase / car for exemple).
So, it's obvious that we might never see any peace car real feature in GP4 but many great things are still in front of us.
Lo2k
Without going into too much details, tracks are composed of multiple files and the most important one is track's physical definition stored in the .dat files.
I can't by myself tried to change every byte of these file to know what they does (because, that's the only way to understand how to create/modify tracks) and that's why i built the .dat part of 3DEditor.
The goal was to give you a full access to all the file, affording everyone knowledge already gather by GP3 track makers and an easy way to edit the files graphically without having any hexadecimal knowledge.
So Beostar, you know what you have to do :
Just open a dat, change 1 and only one value, save the file and try the game to see what changed. Anybody can do this.
Of course it will crash GP4 sometimes but copy/paste original .dat file will make everything ok again.
About future, and appart tracks physical side, i'm currently working on a much better .gp4 files editing allowing more modifications in materials and 3D objects properties as Normals, and every other datas stored in .gp4 files.
And much can be done in the graphical area, better textures, new objects, better mappings...
Car mods are still alive and independant data modification bring by Madman in GP4Tweaker will allow much more things in future (different wheelbase / car for exemple).
So, it's obvious that we might never see any peace car real feature in GP4 but many great things are still in front of us.
Lo2k
Nice said lo2k
You truly managed to capture the spirit of the game in that post.
I'm definantly gonna try all I can and hope that many will do the same
You truly managed to capture the spirit of the game in that post.
I'm definantly gonna try all I can and hope that many will do the same
I know that on the cars, wheels, helmets stuff we won't have problems
Ricardo can update the track's aspects, and someday someone that has taken C/C++ courses, VisualBasic, blablablablabla and stuff, or even graduated on those, will come up with the solution. And I have faith on Lo2K, and I use many of his editors
Ricardo can update the track's aspects, and someday someone that has taken C/C++ courses, VisualBasic, blablablablabla and stuff, or even graduated on those, will come up with the solution. And I have faith on Lo2K, and I use many of his editors
I was wondering, did anyone ever tried to send an email to infogrames/geoff crammond??
I would save us a lot of work If we could just get their program they used for making tracks.. I guess they don't have to compress and decrompess wads and stuff in the way we do...
I would save us a lot of work If we could just get their program they used for making tracks.. I guess they don't have to compress and decrompess wads and stuff in the way we do...
yes, geoff wasnt in charge of the tracks 
About track editing, i think it has future. Look, when Gp2 was released, there wasnt a track editor yet, and it took a looong time to come, but it came! Gp3 is a almost-copy of Gp2, so it was much easier! And now, Gp4 has a new programming style, so we'll have to walk the long way again, but we're already very far from the beggining! Gp4Italia, for example, got the code to modify the track orders, Mr. Lampert changes the physycal tracks, Viper, Tartichio, Erix and lots of other guys are true masters when making cars. What else? Gp4Tweaker and GpxPatch make the game a brand-new one! Let's get happy! WE HAVE FUTURE!
WE ARE THE WORLD...
WE ARE THE FUTURE...
i forgot this song =D
Formula One is not dead... It's just a bit tired =D But don't worry, 2005 will be great
WE ARE THE WORLD...
WE ARE THE FUTURE...
i forgot this song =D
Formula One is not dead... It's just a bit tired =D But don't worry, 2005 will be great
"we are the champions, no time for loooosers coz weeeeeeeee are the champions....... of gpx"
that one?
that one?
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