GP4 HOTLAP COMP. MONZA (2nd thread)

to change the subject,

fabio, how are you getting those times??

are you using a normal amount of kurb or lots of kurb??

and i presume u r using max rives setup, but have u modded it at all??

I can´t remember if that´s Max Rive´s.... it´s that one with 3/1 wings.... it´s pretty good, haven´t changed a thing!!!! and yes, I use a lot of the kerbs!!!!

hey, pls tell me.... can anyone acces the hotlap website???? Coz I can´t, and it has been like 4 or 5 days!!!!

ps: I fell gulty now, I think I should have asked Neil before start that voting!!!!




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I have no problems to access the hotlap site... right now i'm in it

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i can access the website

dont feel guilty - u have nothing to feel guilty about


i was also under the assumption that any proposed rule change has to be put to everyone competing on this forum

got this from the website:


8. Rule changes

1. Rules can be changed by the jury.

so who are the jury actually????

guys, just a question...
does the steering help count as a driver aid for KB users? because in every round i'm being deducted 6 points, 2 for auto-gears, 2 for TC, and the other 2 i suppose are for steering help???

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no, SH help shouldn´t count for KB users.... that´s what the rules say!!!! There must be smthing wrong there then!!!!




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no, steering help only incurs a penalty for steering wheel users, NOT kb.

ps: so who actually is the jury??

unless i had Launch Control on is those hotlaps, what would be really stupid of me, 'cause it's useless in a hotlap...

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no, i think it's impossible, LC is not a driver aid... at least it isn't in hofxlap

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Paul, i guess the jury are (or were) you and Neil. But now I have no idea, i hope Neil isn't mad with all what happened here...

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i have changed my mind

i dont want to fall out with neil over this

ok, lets just keep the 2 points per driver aid

and neil, if u want to and u r not mad at me, please keep running the website

of course if u dont want to, i will run it

im sorry

apolagy accepted??

I`m sorry too Neil!!!!




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I've got a question or two.

1) Since each person submits their lap file, the "jury" or designated verifier can view each lap and look for any aides that are turned on as well as watch for any infractions during the lap, why is there any talk of cheating ?

2) If there is concern over what aides are given what penalty, why not just state which ones are allowed, period ? No point penalties, just DQ the lap.

For instance:

THe FIA currently allows Traction control, Launch control, and autogears. Perhaps those should all be allowed without penalty.

( Personally, I think that the F1 teams need to drop those driver aides and let the drivers get some hair on their chests !! )

Since keyboard players DO have a disadvantage, other sites I know of allow Steering help for them only.


p.s. It's NOT advised to piss off the webmaster. It's can be a lot more work that it looks. I know. I'm doing it for anouther league.


JohnW

im well aware its a lot of work to do

but we did not piss him off, we just all voted and obviously neil was against the vote

i have said that for ages, why r we getting penalized for driver aids that are legal in real life F1??

Since keyboard players DO have a disadvantage, other sites I know of allow Steering help for them only.

On our comp. it´s allowed SH for KB users too!!!!




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ok sorry guys, i cant type!

Personally, I don't use any driving aides, but that is just a stuborn streak I have. I think most of the drivers, in the other league I work with, DO use TC in their EA sims. The, " If they use it in the REAL world, we should be able to do so as well " argument is the norm.

But....

If a league wants to try to differenciate between drivers even more, adding some sort of time to a HL for each aide also makes sense. It all has to be typed out in black and white before hand.


John ( REAL drivers don't use aides ! ) W

today i tryed a lot with sw and my best time with was 1.23.xxx hehehehe best time in kb 1:21...8 i think i´m not sw driver.. heheh



Post Edited (09-16-03 02:20)

Don´t prectice SW with hotlap setup checha.... that´s the worst thing you can do.... first, get used to the SW with a default setup (like 15/15 wings), then you go try a hotlap setup.... try that!!!!




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checha, I think it'll take you a while to get used to the wheel, but then you won't gonna touch the KB again...

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