small wads and no more lods...

Posted by b-tone 
small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:24PM
Posted by: b-tone
further on from dumass's smaller-wads-means-more-ram-means-better-fps, if you tweak your gp4.exe you can set it so it only uses lod_0 (for example).

i can delete almost 30mb rom my wad, and have a full hi detailed 2003 wad at about 45mb.

might cause trouble on slower machines.



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Tony

Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:26PM
Posted by: aquarius_varun
How do I tweak my Gp4 to use only the lod_0 files.




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:30PM
Posted by: tux
but then fps goes down because of the extra polys.


nice try tho :)





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:48PM
Posted by: aquarius_varun
Ya thats Ok becos,

Ferrai is always high lod
Mclaren lods I copied all from 0
williams high
Renault all copied 0 lods
sauber all lods 0
jaguar all lods 0\
minardi as downloaded with low lods also
toyota all lods 0

As u see most of my cars have all 0 lods copied to remaining so they look good.So it would be better to have only one instead of others




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:53PM
Posted by: tux
not ok for most tho





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:54PM
Posted by: aquarius_varun
So how do I do it DumAss, how can I tweak my gp4 to use only the 0 lods




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:55PM
Posted by: tux
i dunno, ask b-tone, hes the one who did it ;)





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 01:58PM
Posted by: aquarius_varun
Awright, how do I do it b-tone,




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 02:15PM
Posted by: b-tone
change the last '%d' in
CAR_%s_CAR_%d_LOD_%d
to LOD_0.
make sure you insert a space after the LOD_0 otherwise you might have troubles.
it is line 0023ef10 in my hex editor.

or.
change it to
CAR_1_CAR_1_LOD_0
and you'll only have 22 ferrari, ms, lod_0s. :)

go up a little and change FERRARI to BLAH, and you'll be able to rename you .gp4 files to car_blah_car1_lod_0.gp4.

You're right again dumass. its the same as coopying down lod_0 as far as polys and po go. but i copy down anyway, so maybe the 30mb saved will give me a few frames extra.



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Tony

Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 02:51PM
Posted by: aquarius_varun
Thanx for that b-tone.I'll try that.




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 02:51PM
Posted by: tux
yeah, if you copy down anyway then it will help u :) but if u dont copy down then there might not be any point.





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 03:05PM
Posted by: Ellis
but then fps goes down because of the extra polys.

will work for GT mod i think because overall you dont have much more (if any) polys than before because of low poly shapes




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Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 07, 2003 11:23PM
Posted by: b-tone
and the itc mod doesn't have much difference in lower lods.



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Tony

Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 04:03AM
Posted by: mclaren_rmn
Hey b-tone, you've done this right? Is it really working on you?
Coz I've tried but the fact is my PO increase by 10!
My cars.wad was 37MB, and i've delete all the LOD except LOD_0 and the size really decrease become 20MB. But not the PO?
Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 04:05AM
Posted by: tux
po = nothing.

use fraps





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 04:53AM
Posted by: b-tone
i've just lots of new installs, so i'm not sure if its any better.
but it should be.
although it will only be lower if your previous wad had all lod_0 copied down.

po=nothing.
i dont really agree. po isnt some universal system, but it should work relative to your game. if you change one thing and the po goes up, then its the oine thing that causes it.
but the gpxpatch overlays sometimes give me +100 po.
and when my po is 150 the game is slow, but when its 50 its normal.
sometimes even hitting 'O' can give a 100po hit.
so its not perfect, but its ok.
and fraps is good too. but doesnt it measure fps? which should be fairly static shouldnt it? or does it measure actual as opposed to preset fps?


Anyone know exactly when the lower lods come into play?
if you put chase cam on the grid the cars that arent yours go to lod_1 i think.
something to test maybe. (make the 5 lods 5 different liveries and test that if someone wants to)



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Tony

Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 05:01AM
Posted by: tux
"sometimes even hitting 'O' can give a 100po hit."

thats why its means nothing ;)


oh btw, it only dos that in 32bit mode :)


"and fraps is good too. but doesnt it measure fps? which should be fairly static shouldnt it? or does it measure actual as opposed to preset fps?"


it mesures the actual fps, so if u set gp4 to 25 fps and ure getting 20 from fraps, turn down details coz ire at 125 po





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 05:11AM
Posted by: b-tone
"sometimes even hitting 'O' can give a 100po hit."

thats why its means nothing


its all relatvie tho.

oh btw, it only dos that in 32bit mode
reeally?
why.
and whats the dif between 32 and 16?

so:

PO=setFPS/frapsFPS



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Tony

Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 11, 2003 05:25AM
Posted by: tux
i found that sky messages only screw with u in 32bit color :-o





Re: small wads and no more lods...
Date: August 12, 2003 07:21AM
Posted by: mclaren_rmn
Ehm, sorry.... but what is fraps?
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