Wet weather utility?

Posted by Dekraa 
Wet weather utility?
Date: February 18, 2008 08:22PM
Posted by: Dekraa
Im doing wet weather tyre tests. But I have problems in that sense I dont know actually how much amount water that is on the track from one minute to the other. Which means that my laptimes are not always correct when comparing an intermediate tyre with a hard or soft wet. Because the wetness of the track changes from one tyre test to another (when you put in some laps, come back to change tyres and out again) So I wonder if there was an utility that would count the average wetness on the track of each lap or something out here? Is it possible? Because it would help a lot to analyse correctly. Now it feels like Im in the dark without a candle and have to feel my way forward.

I remember in F1 challenge there was actually a line that showed the actual wetness of the track in that particular lap on the telemetry data. Which of course made it easier to make graphs when different tires peaked at their performances. However, that game doesnt have the depth of GP4 of course.

But do you see my dilemma?

(Of course there is a possibility with loading a practise session with 100% forecast rain, and so on, to stabilise things. To get the same amount of rain constant for 2 hours. But try for yourself. Its not that even as you may think cause it differs. In theory it works but in pracitise.... Nah.)
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 19, 2008 07:43PM
Posted by: harjinator
if you go to session settings on GPxPatch and put in a random seed, it sets a level of weather conditions for the track, which remains constant as long as you keep the same seed. to find a seed, save a hotlap, and open it with hotfxlap (available from SDI-the GPxPatch website) then the random seed for that lap is on there. If you then put that into GPxPatch, the weather conditions will be constantly the same as the ones u used in setting that hotlap.

Hope that's right (and correct!)

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Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 19, 2008 08:59PM
Posted by: Dekraa
Well, at least something:) Yeah, it will probably help a lot!:)
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 19, 2008 09:48PM
Posted by: Dekraa
I tried it. I uploaded a lap within hofxlapw and it showed this

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GPx started on 19-02-2008 21:23:17
Log version 1.16, GPxLap version 3.92
init, car, damage, cc checksum: fc7160b0, 00000000, 6015de08, 928cee6c
pit lane speed limit: 80
free practice cars: 1
save/restore car state: disabled
Standard track 5: 'Barcelona'
checksum e80814ed
Frame rate: 30.0 FPS
Possible failures: None
Random seed: 0,0,0,0,0,0
In-car setup changes: enabled (version 2)
Pitstop time: -:--.--- (pitstop bug fixed: yes)
Session started normally
Driver Car LN RP FP Fuel Wght Split1 Split2 Lap_Time Session_Time AvPO SDur F1 F4 F7 OT MinSpd MaxSpd TWLR TWRR TWLF TWRF
jimmy bjorck # 2 2 4 1 13.2 635 0:28.700 1:05.857 1:40.693 0h13m43.142s 43% 0.3 0 0 0 2w 73.44 302.33 0.33 0.32 0.31 0.24
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Random seed: 0,0,0,0,0,0 ??? How can it show this figure? It was pouring down.
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 20, 2008 12:17AM
Posted by: Anonymous User
Take a good look at this picture i maid.
You will understand how to do what you want.


Cheers :)
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 20, 2008 08:14AM
Posted by: Dekraa
Okay... I get it! But how do I get the SEED from a particular session or a hotlap?
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 20, 2008 03:22PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
Do several sessions, but instead of enabling "Use" in GPxPatch, like that picture does, do "Record" instead. ;-)



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Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 20, 2008 04:39PM
Posted by: Dekraa
Of course, my horse hehe:)
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 20, 2008 05:19PM
Posted by: Anonymous User
Dekraa Wrote:
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> Of course, my horse hehe:)

LOL !!
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:06AM
Posted by: Dekraa
Alright. Im back again with a vengance. Well... I load a saved session. (I have marked record in GPx set session settings) And I then quit the game and go back to GPx patch but its still a blank sheet in random seed!?
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:08AM
Posted by: Anonymous User
Dekraa Wrote:
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> Alright. Im back again with a vengance. Well... I
> load a saved session. (I have marked record in GPx
> set session settings) And I then quit the game and
> go back to GPx patch but its still a blank sheet
> in random seed!?

Did you use hofxlapw and loaded the saved session?
Maybe it will show their the ramdom seed.

Cheers :)
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:15AM
Posted by: Dekraa
How to extract a seed from a saved session?! That was my question
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:20AM
Posted by: Dekraa
> jcaranti Wrote:
> Did you use hofxlapw and loaded the saved session? Maybe it will show their the ramdom seed.
>
> Cheers :)

Yeah, I do load the saved session in hofxlapw, and random seed shows:
Random seed: 0,0,0,0,0,0
Which is weird cause its pouring down.
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:24AM
Posted by: Anonymous User
Can you show me a picture of your gpxset session settings?
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 12:31AM
Posted by: Dekraa
I can but I dont know how to... But instead of a visual Ill give you a imagination.

weather: custom probability of rain: 100%
RECORD random seed: -
for session: unlimited practise

To record I have to start a new session and Ill get a seed when I go back to GPx. But I wonder how to extract a seed from a saved session or a hotlap.
Re: Wet weather utility?
Date: February 21, 2008 09:54AM
Posted by: SpaceAce
random seeds are random
0,0,0,0 or watever doesnt mean no rain...



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