HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4

Posted by Rafa_brucevandamme 
HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 06, 2022 11:13PM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
Hello friends, how are you?

I got permission to convert the F2007B from the MMG 3.02 from the Rfactor, but I've read and reread the tutorial on how to convert the cars from the Rfactor to GP4 but I couldn't, I'm in Brazil and I spent all day getting it to work, I'm putting the link to the what I've done so far if anyone can help me finish or if I can finish this work I'd be very grateful for the help

Thanks

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Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 06, 2022 11:35PM
Posted by: mortal
From the pinned FAQ in case you've not seen it.

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Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 07, 2022 12:16AM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
So I followed this same tutorial and I still couldn't make it work, so I asked for help, because I didn't find any solution I followed all the steps rigorously.

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Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 07, 2022 12:26AM
Posted by: Noog
Not an expert, but your two sidepot objects should be called sidepod
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 07, 2022 09:03AM
Posted by: rracunis
Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
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> Hello friends, how are you?
>
> I got permission to convert the F2007B from the
> MMG 3.02 from the Rfactor, but I've read and
> reread the tutorial on how to convert the cars
> from the Rfactor to GP4 but I couldn't, I'm in
> Brazil and I spent all day getting it to work, I'm
> putting the link to the what I've done so far if
> anyone can help me finish or if I can finish this
> work I'd be very grateful for the help
>
> Thanks
>
> [www.mediafire.com]
> vert+Unsucessfull+F2007B+MMG.rar/file

You actually converted the car, the shape has 28 objects and you've separated them properly from the original rfactor car (lower_rear_wing, nose_cone etc).
From my taste, you have some unnecessary objects like brakes (not brakeglow) and wheel covers which won't be used ingame and the textures' names are so long, make them shorter.
If you can, remap some objects to reduce the number of textures, check the car's height and assure that the brakeglows and rearlight are working.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 12:57AM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
Noog Wrote:
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> Not an expert, but your two sidepot objects should
> be called sidepod

Noog, thank you very much!

I got this was the error that yesterday I was blind to see! Thank you!
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 12:59AM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
rracunis Wrote:
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> Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hello friends, how are you?
> >
> > I got permission to convert the F2007B from the
> > MMG 3.02 from the Rfactor, but I've read and
> > reread the tutorial on how to convert the cars
> > from the Rfactor to GP4 but I couldn't, I'm in
> > Brazil and I spent all day getting it to work,
> I'm
> > putting the link to the what I've done so far
> if
> > anyone can help me finish or if I can finish
> this
> > work I'd be very grateful for the help
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> [www.mediafire.com]
>
> > vert+Unsucessfull+F2007B+MMG.rar/file
>
> You actually converted the car, the shape has 28
> objects and you've separated them properly from
> the original rfactor car (lower_rear_wing,
> nose_cone etc).
> From my taste, you have some unnecessary objects
> like brakes (not brakeglow) and wheel covers which
> won't be used ingame and the textures' names are
> so long, make them shorter.
> If you can, remap some objects to reduce the
> number of textures, check the car's height and
> assure that the brakeglows and rearlight are
> working.

I don't know anything about remapping, but I don't agree that it has too many textures, it's the first time I do this conversion. : ((
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 01:03AM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
Friends, I would like to thank you all!

Here are some still WIP images.

Can anyone help me with the mirrors, which are black and the front glass which is frosted?

Thanks

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Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2022 01:16AM by Rafa_brucevandamme.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 08:33AM
Posted by: Noog
It's very easy to miss those little errors in the names.

I can't see your pics, but I find that some RF mirror glasses convert easily while others don't (as you say, they are kind of frosty and the reflections are messed up) - and when they don't work I tend to import a basic GP4 set (ie square or circular, depending on what I need), that I keep in my 'parts bin'. Not sure it's the best solution (because a friend of mine is able to fix the RF ones), but I never seem to be able to do it, unless they are just inverted, which is easy to fix. For me, either the RF ones work first time, or I replace them.

Hope that helps.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 09:04AM
Posted by: rracunis
You have to delete the part 7 in the cockpit object, this has to be in the z_cockpit_visor and it's already there.
The mirrors are black because the textures are wrong, the texture carbon should be changed for some specific one like mirrors.tga or something like that.
And the wheels' covers have to be push in towards the rims, you can fix that either with gp4builder or zmodeler but to be as accurate as possible you should add the rims to the car's shape, adjust the covers and delete the rims. To do that you have to use the zmodeler.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 12:50PM
Posted by: Noog
rracunis Wrote:
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> You have to delete the part 7 in the cockpit
> object, this has to be in the z_cockpit_visor and
> it's already there.
> The mirrors are black because the textures are
> wrong, the texture carbon should be changed for
> some specific one like mirrors.tga or something
> like that.
> And the wheels' covers have to be push in towards
> the rims, you can fix that either with gp4builder
> or zmodeler but to be as accurate as possible you
> should add the rims to the car's shape, adjust the
> covers and delete the rims. To do that you have to
> use the zmodeler.

All true, but (while I can't see the pics) I think the problem Rafa is having is where the RF mirrors seem to work (kind of) but they are totally out of focus and it's almost like they are looking down to the track, but reversing them, rotating them or re-texturing them doesn't make any difference. It only seems to happen in some RF mods, but when it does it often seems to affect all the cars.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 01:07PM
Posted by: fongu
It took me a while to understand mirrors, I have to be honest, but actually, they are quite straight forward.

Basically, it doesn't really matter which texture it's mapped to, the fact it's named Z_cockpit_xyz_mirror bit overrides it.

You will need to remap it from your conversion, but it's not hard. Reset any previous mapping and assign new mapping from the front view. One mirror fills one half of the entire texture, the other half the entire texture.
Off the top of my head, I can't remember, but you need to flip it vertically - or is it horizontally? But I try it ingame and amend accordingly. Sorry I don't have zmodeler in this computer to take screenshots, but if you're familiar with mapping it's quite easy.


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Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 03:48PM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
in this case, the mirrors are dark, I looked at other GP4 cars and didn't see any mapping for the mirror, so I put the Carbon... but I understood that in the cockpit part I need to delete the part where the original RF mirrors are... and leave the

z_cockpit_right_mirror
z_cockpit_left_mirror

that's it? I don't think I noticed the Cockpit mirrors
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 05:51PM
Posted by: rracunis
Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
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> in this case, the mirrors are dark, I looked at
> other GP4 cars and didn't see any mapping for the
> mirror, so I put the Carbon... but I understood
> that in the cockpit part I need to delete the part
> where the original RF mirrors are... and leave
> the
>
> z_cockpit_right_mirror
> z_cockpit_left_mirror
>
> that's it? I don't think I noticed the Cockpit
> mirrors

You have to delete the part 7 in the cockpit object and this problem should be fixed.
For the mirrors, follow Fongu's advice , he is a master!
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 08, 2022 08:48PM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
rracunis Wrote:
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> Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in this case, the mirrors are dark, I looked at
> > other GP4 cars and didn't see any mapping for
> the
> > mirror, so I put the Carbon... but I understood
> > that in the cockpit part I need to delete the
> part
> > where the original RF mirrors are... and leave
> > the
> >
> > z_cockpit_right_mirror
> > z_cockpit_left_mirror
> >
> > that's it? I don't think I noticed the Cockpit
> > mirrors
>
> You have to delete the part 7 in the cockpit
> object and this problem should be fixed.
> For the mirrors, follow Fongu's advice , he is a
> master!


sorry, how do I find part 7 of the Cockpit material in zModeler 1

I'm not that skilled, I only know how to do the trivial
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 09, 2022 12:43AM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
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> rracunis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rafa_brucevandamme Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > in this case, the mirrors are dark, I looked
> at
> > > other GP4 cars and didn't see any mapping for
> > the
> > > mirror, so I put the Carbon... but I
> understood
> > > that in the cockpit part I need to delete the
> > part
> > > where the original RF mirrors are... and
> leave
> > > the
> > >
> > > z_cockpit_right_mirror
> > > z_cockpit_left_mirror
> > >
> > > that's it? I don't think I noticed the
> Cockpit
> > > mirrors
> >
> > You have to delete the part 7 in the cockpit
> > object and this problem should be fixed.
> > For the mirrors, follow Fongu's advice , he is
> a
> > master!
>
>
> sorry, how do I find part 7 of the Cockpit
> material in zModeler 1
>
> I'm not that skilled, I only know how to do the
> trivial

thank you fongu

I managed to follow the steps, deleted part 7, and that made the mirrors work, now I need to invert them vertically so that it works at 100% with that I will change the positions of the wheels and the car will be complete.

fongu, I do this vertical inversion via zModeler normally? because this part of the remapping I actually don't know how to execute, but I can try to invert the 3D part, I believe it's easier, or do you recommend me to do it via texture?

Thanks
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 09, 2022 07:06AM
Posted by: rracunis
You cannot invert the mirrors using the zmodeler, you`ve to use gp4builder. See the images below and the red circle, click once to flip the mirrors vertically. That's it!









Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2022 09:55AM by rracunis.
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: March 09, 2022 11:39PM
Posted by: Rafa_brucevandamme
rracunis Wrote:
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> You cannot invert the mirrors using the zmodeler,
> you`ve to use gp4builder. See the images below and
> the red circle, click once to flip the mirrors
> vertically. That's it!
>
>
> [i.imgur.com]
>
>
> [i.imgur.com]


rracunis!

I achieved!
I followed the guidance and the mirrors worked, now the glass that looks weird has no transparent texture :(

As soon as I finish I will provide the versions of Monza

(I need a tip to post the photo and appear in the post not only the link, I'm a very beginner I apologize and thank you so much for your patience)

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Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: May 08, 2022 07:40PM
Posted by: haunetal1990
Is there a chance to open zmodeler 1 on Windows 10 ? Cause zmodeler 1 has errors ("Switching to software mode. / "No 3D Device";); under Windows Sandbox it working, but i can't import a gp4 file.

:)
Re: HELP - Convert Car Rfactor to GP4
Date: May 08, 2022 08:19PM
Posted by: Lacrowe
Only Zmodeler 2 needs to use vcredist_86.exe file to work while for Zmodeler 1 it works without it on win 10
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