99 mod performances....

Posted by Jagdpanzer 
99 mod performances....
Date: February 06, 2006 09:00AM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
I've been doing a bit of driving in the 99 mod lately, and I have to say it's giving me fits! I have spent hours trying different setups, but no matter how good a lap I turn I can't get any closer than 2.5 - 3 seconds behind the quickest cars. And it seems to be this way on all the tracks.

I can usually get a good, quick setup with some work in all my other mods, 79, 86, 88, 2005 but nothing works for me in the 99 mod. Has anyone else experienced this? Anybody know of a updated performance files or have any other suggestions as to how to get quicker in the 99 mod?



"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 06, 2006 09:36AM
Posted by: raisinberry777
I don't bother with setups, but I'm slow even on amateur, when with other mods I'm relatively quick on pro
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 06, 2006 08:49PM
Posted by: matt
i had the same problem,AI cars were way too fast so i made track specific peformance files and altered the magic data a bit to get resonable laps times as of the 99 season,grip levels seem too high so these have been adjusted.Only work in ace mode though.
PM me if you want to try them out.

Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 06, 2006 10:47PM
Posted by: smorr
or use a standard perf file and take a few 100 points off the AI, as it doesnt affect you. Just keep going till you get a realistic lap from the AI on ace, well, thats my theory.


The Flanker is gone. :(
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 07, 2006 09:58PM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
matt Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> i had the same problem,AI cars were way too fast
> so i made track specific peformance files and
> altered the magic data a bit to get resonable laps
> times as of the 99 season,grip levels seem too
> high so these have been adjusted.Only work in ace
> mode though.
> PM me if you want to try them out.

I'm tempted tp ask for them Matt, but I'm a newbie when it comes to messing with the performance files, so I'm kind of afraid I might screw something up trying to install them.

I did find a performance file with a self installer over at GP4 Italia for the 2001 season. I wonder if all things considered the '99 and '01 lap times were close enough to where this would be a decent substitute for the messed up 99 performances?



"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 08, 2006 11:01PM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
bump?



"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 08, 2006 11:30PM
Posted by: matt
well i wouldnt use a 2001 performance file as youll have different names and teams will not be as realistic as 99.try copying my reworked melbourne perfomance file and use it as a generic perf file.see how you go.;)


** GP3edit - Performance File **

[Team #00]
Name=Ferrari,
Performance=801,799,0
First Driver=3,Michael Schumacher,16311,0,16279,0
Second Driver=4,Eddie Irvine,16065,0,16062,0

[Team #01]
Name=McLaren,Mercedes
Performance=816,814,12250
First Driver=1,Mika Hakkinen,16430,0,16730,0
Second Driver=2,David Coulthard,16271,0,16542,0

[Team #02]
Name=Williams,Supertec
Performance=771,769,3750
First Driver=5,Alex Zanardi,15809,0,15832,0
Second Driver=6,Ralf Schumacher,16305,0,16199,0

[Team #03]
Name=Benetton,Supertec
Performance=771,769,4250
First Driver=9,Giancarlo Fisichella,16151,0,16264,0
Second Driver=10,Alexander Wurz,16003,0,16157,0

[Team #04]
Name=BAR,Supertec
Performance=767,765,12250
First Driver=22,Jacques Villeneuve,16059,0,16156,0
Second Driver=23,Ricardo Zonta,15687,0,15503,0

[Team #05]
Name=Jordan,Mugen-Honda
Performance=769,767,3250
First Driver=7,Damon Hill,16027,0,16218,0
Second Driver=8,Heinz-Harald Frentzen,16383,0,16398,0

[Team #06]
Name=Arrows,TWR
Performance=741,739,0
First Driver=14,Pedro De La Rosa,15869,0,15844,0
Second Driver=15,Toranosuke Takagi,15823,0,15870,0

[Team #07]
Name=Sauber,Petronas
Performance=769,767,12250
First Driver=11,Jean Alesi,15977,0,15697,0
Second Driver=12,Pedro Diniz,16009,0,15927,0

[Team #08]
Name=Stewart,Ford
Performance=781,779,3750
First Driver=16,Rubens Barrichello,16279,0,16329,0
Second Driver=17,Johnny Herbert,15817,0,15967,0

[Team #09]
Name=Minardi,Ford
Performance=727,725,12250
First Driver=20,Luca Badoer,15673,0,15529,0
Second Driver=21,Marc Gene,15383,0,14802,0

[Team #10]
Name=Prost,Peugeot
Performance=734,732,12250
First Driver=18,Olivier Panis,15789,0,15563,0
Second Driver=19,Jarno Trulli,16369,0,16462,0


[File]
Version=213

[Tyres]
Team #00=1
Team #01=1
Team #02=1
Team #03=1
Team #04=1
Team #05=1
Team #06=1
Team #07=1
Team #08=1
Team #09=1
Team #10=1

[Gears]
Team #00=7
Team #01=7
Team #02=7
Team #03=6
Team #04=7
Team #05=7
Team #06=6
Team #07=7
Team #08=7
Team #09=6
Team #10=7


Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 09, 2006 08:49AM
Posted by: b-tone
performance files shouldn't really affect how you compare to the ai cars. thats more physics/magic data.
taking 100 of the ai cars could wrk if you always drive the same car.
maybe that mod is just harder, and dropping a skill level or two would work?

i'd adjust the magic data. increase the grip a little and see how it goes

____
Tony

Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 12, 2006 09:30AM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
matt Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> well i wouldnt use a 2001 performance file as
> youll have different names and teams will not be
> as realistic as 99.try copying my reworked
> melbourne perfomance file and use it as a generic
> perf file.see how you go.
>
>
> ** GP3edit - Performance File **
>
>
> Name=Ferrari,
> Performance=801,799,0
> First Driver=3,Michael Schumacher,16311,0,16279,0
> Second Driver=4,Eddie Irvine,16065,0,16062,0
>
>
> Name=McLaren,Mercedes
> Performance=816,814,12250
> First Driver=1,Mika Hakkinen,16430,0,16730,0
> Second Driver=2,David Coulthard,16271,0,16542,0
>
>
> Name=Williams,Supertec
> Performance=771,769,3750
> First Driver=5,Alex Zanardi,15809,0,15832,0
> Second Driver=6,Ralf Schumacher,16305,0,16199,0
>
>
> Name=Benetton,Supertec
> Performance=771,769,4250
> First Driver=9,Giancarlo
> Fisichella,16151,0,16264,0
> Second Driver=10,Alexander Wurz,16003,0,16157,0
>
>
> Name=BAR,Supertec
> Performance=767,765,12250
> First Driver=22,Jacques
> Villeneuve,16059,0,16156,0
> Second Driver=23,Ricardo Zonta,15687,0,15503,0
>
>
> Name=Jordan,Mugen-Honda
> Performance=769,767,3250
> First Driver=7,Damon Hill,16027,0,16218,0
> Second Driver=8,Heinz-Harald
> Frentzen,16383,0,16398,0
>
>
> Name=Arrows,TWR
> Performance=741,739,0
> First Driver=14,Pedro De La Rosa,15869,0,15844,0
> Second Driver=15,Toranosuke
> Takagi,15823,0,15870,0
>
>
> Name=Sauber,Petronas
> Performance=769,767,12250
> First Driver=11,Jean Alesi,15977,0,15697,0
> Second Driver=12,Pedro Diniz,16009,0,15927,0
>
>
> Name=Stewart,Ford
> Performance=781,779,3750
> First Driver=16,Rubens
> Barrichello,16279,0,16329,0
> Second Driver=17,Johnny Herbert,15817,0,15967,0
>
>
> Name=Minardi,Ford
> Performance=727,725,12250
> First Driver=20,Luca Badoer,15673,0,15529,0
> Second Driver=21,Marc Gene,15383,0,14802,0
>
>
> Name=Prost,Peugeot
> Performance=734,732,12250
> First Driver=18,Olivier Panis,15789,0,15563,0
> Second Driver=19,Jarno Trulli,16369,0,16462,0
>
>
>
> Version=213
>
>
> Team #00=1
> Team #01=1
> Team #02=1
> Team #03=1
> Team #04=1
> Team #05=1
> Team #06=1
> Team #07=1
> Team #08=1
> Team #09=1
> Team #10=1
>
>
> Team #00=7
> Team #01=7
> Team #02=7
> Team #03=6
> Team #04=7
> Team #05=7
> Team #06=6
> Team #07=7
> Team #08=7
> Team #09=6
> Team #10=7
>
>
>

Matt, would I just cut and paste the above into the generic perfs for the 99 mod with notepad? Anything else I might need to do try out your perf files?






"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 12, 2006 11:31AM
Posted by: matt
yep,just do that and you should find that it is easier to be competitive.
the only downside is that you will have roughly the same performance at every track so change the ability in the drivers from 0 to maybe 200.also the third number in the line "performance" you can change as this is for failures,a few teams there i have got as have a very high failure rate,you can adjust these.

or as i said before i can send you all the files which you just replace with(16 peformance files,16 DAT,s and a gpxset.ini) to have realistic performance at all tracks

Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 13, 2006 12:23AM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
Matt,please check your PM's....



"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 13, 2006 07:17PM
Posted by: kyle
[Team #00]
Name=Ferrari,
Performance=801,799,0
First Driver=3,Michael Schumacher,16311,0,16279,0
Second Driver=4,Eddie Irvine,16065,0,16062,0

[Team #01]
Name=McLaren,Mercedes
Performance=816,814,12250
First Driver=1,Mika Hakkinen,16430,0,16730,0
Second Driver=2,David Coulthard,16271,0,16542,0

[Team #02]
Name=Williams,Supertec
Performance=771,769,3750
First Driver=5,Alex Zanardi,15809,0,15832,0
Second Driver=6,Ralf Schumacher,16305,0,16199,0

[Team #03]
Name=Benetton,Supertec
Performance=771,769,4250
First Driver=9,Giancarlo Fisichella,16151,0,16264,0
Second Driver=10,Alexander Wurz,16003,0,16157,0

[Team #04]
Name=BAR,Supertec
Performance=767,765,12250
First Driver=22,Jacques Villeneuve,16059,0,16156,0
Second Driver=23,Ricardo Zonta,15687,0,15503,0

[Team #05]
Name=Jordan,Mugen-Honda
Performance=769,767,3250
First Driver=7,Damon Hill,16027,0,16218,0
Second Driver=8,Heinz-Harald Frentzen,16383,0,16398,0

[Team #06]
Name=Arrows,TWR
Performance=741,739,0
First Driver=14,Pedro De La Rosa,15869,0,15844,0
Second Driver=15,Toranosuke Takagi,15823,0,15870,0

[Team #07]
Name=Sauber,Petronas
Performance=769,767,12250
First Driver=11,Jean Alesi,15977,0,15697,0
Second Driver=12,Pedro Diniz,16009,0,15927,0

[Team #08]
Name=Stewart,Ford
Performance=781,779,3750
First Driver=16,Rubens Barrichello,16279,0,16329,0
Second Driver=17,Johnny Herbert,15817,0,15967,0

[Team #09]
Name=Minardi,Ford
Performance=727,725,12250
First Driver=20,Luca Badoer,15673,0,15529,0
Second Driver=21,Marc Gene,15383,0,14802,0

[Team #10]
Name=Prost,Peugeot
Performance=734,732,12250
First Driver=18,Olivier Panis,15789,0,15563,0
Second Driver=19,Jarno Trulli,16369,0,16462,0

how can you even use this theres no variation in the performances so it will be the same cars in the same positions every race plus the ferraris will never retire a bit pointless dont you think
Re: 99 mod performances....
Date: February 16, 2006 04:44AM
Posted by: Jagdpanzer
b-tone Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> performance files shouldn't really affect how you
> compare to the ai cars. thats more physics/magic
> data.
> taking 100 of the ai cars could wrk if you always
> drive the same car.
> maybe that mod is just harder, and dropping a
> skill level or two would work?
>
> i'd adjust the magic data. increase the grip a
> little and see how it goes
>
> ____
> Tony
>
>


So to get the cars a bit slower, I should subtract 100 from all the cars quali and race grip, or add 100?



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