Good safety car idea?
Posted by salvasirignano
nope. all sports involve luck... sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Some race soon, ferrari will benefit from a safety car... and tbh, without the safety car, silverstone would have been the most boring race since bahrain and valencia doubly so, because vettel wouldn't have caught anybody interesting.
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Yes, closing the pits is the safest and fairest option. It would also stop the drivers racing back to the pit-lane, which can be very unsafe if there are marshalls/cars/debris on the track.
Everyone seemed to hate the SC rules when it gave Piquet a podium, but there seemingly wasn't so much outrage if it disadvantaged Ferrari.
X (@ed24f1)
Everyone seemed to hate the SC rules when it gave Piquet a podium, but there seemingly wasn't so much outrage if it disadvantaged Ferrari.
X (@ed24f1)
Fillyourboots Wrote:
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> Just close the pits, (team managers worrying
> about) cars running out of fuel is no longer a
> consideration now.
That's actually not a bad idea, but will probably remove one of the few chances for a switched-on team to make up places.
NeoLiot Wrote:
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> i think drivers should be forced to hit the speed
> limiter button (the same used in pit lane)
> whenever the safety car is deployed... and stay
> that way until the proper line is formed behind
> the SC...
This is also a good idea, until a driver tucked up behind another hits his limiter too late...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2010 10:48PM by senninho.
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> Just close the pits, (team managers worrying
> about) cars running out of fuel is no longer a
> consideration now.
That's actually not a bad idea, but will probably remove one of the few chances for a switched-on team to make up places.
NeoLiot Wrote:
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> i think drivers should be forced to hit the speed
> limiter button (the same used in pit lane)
> whenever the safety car is deployed... and stay
> that way until the proper line is formed behind
> the SC...
This is also a good idea, until a driver tucked up behind another hits his limiter too late...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2010 10:48PM by senninho.
what about when you go karting on holiday, to the touristy venues where the radio tower controls ALL cars with limiters. surely there could be a race director who would press this and limit everyone, with some sort of warning light and a 5 or 10 second countdown.
think of it like gp2/gp3/gp4 when the hotseat mode switches car. 'switching in 10, 9, 8.... etc.
it would surely keep people in the same relative distances from eachother, and theoretically, people can pit and still resume more or less in the same space.
it prevents tactic losses, but loses the thrill safety cars have of shaking a race up.
most shock wins and fun races involve this randomness.
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
think of it like gp2/gp3/gp4 when the hotseat mode switches car. 'switching in 10, 9, 8.... etc.
it would surely keep people in the same relative distances from eachother, and theoretically, people can pit and still resume more or less in the same space.
it prevents tactic losses, but loses the thrill safety cars have of shaking a race up.
most shock wins and fun races involve this randomness.
Maybe so.
But you could say that throughout F1 history. F1 has never really been about close racing / overtaking fest. It's always been about getting the car on pole and then buggering off into the distance, that's pretty much the point as a competitor. Close racing is usually a happy side effect, but by no means guaranteed.
As I recall the safety car as we know it... when was it introduced? 1993? That kind of time I think, was introduced for two reasons, firstly and foremostly obviously as a safety tool to slow the cars down when there is an obstruction on the circuit, most commonly used after an accident/incident which necessitates marshals to be on the circuit to clear it up. Secondary it was designed to keep the show/race running so at least the audience get to see something with out the need to stop the race altogether.
That being so... the safety car is at least 50% about the "show" And modern F1 is as much an entertainment business as it is a sport. It might turn it into a lottery at times, but more often than not lotteries make it exciting and memorable for the audience. And remember one of the most important things to F1 the business is the audience.
Coming at it from this viewpoint I think the safety car should stay in it's current guise, or even return to the late 90's early 00's. In recent years they've been tinkling with it with minimal real changes in what it effectively does.
From a sporting point of view as a competitor I guess it could be frustrating and pleasing in equal measures, they all know it can happen though, and it forms part of the challenge in how they react to it, how they take advantage or how they recover or not from it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2010 10:57AM by J i m.
But you could say that throughout F1 history. F1 has never really been about close racing / overtaking fest. It's always been about getting the car on pole and then buggering off into the distance, that's pretty much the point as a competitor. Close racing is usually a happy side effect, but by no means guaranteed.
As I recall the safety car as we know it... when was it introduced? 1993? That kind of time I think, was introduced for two reasons, firstly and foremostly obviously as a safety tool to slow the cars down when there is an obstruction on the circuit, most commonly used after an accident/incident which necessitates marshals to be on the circuit to clear it up. Secondary it was designed to keep the show/race running so at least the audience get to see something with out the need to stop the race altogether.
That being so... the safety car is at least 50% about the "show" And modern F1 is as much an entertainment business as it is a sport. It might turn it into a lottery at times, but more often than not lotteries make it exciting and memorable for the audience. And remember one of the most important things to F1 the business is the audience.
Coming at it from this viewpoint I think the safety car should stay in it's current guise, or even return to the late 90's early 00's. In recent years they've been tinkling with it with minimal real changes in what it effectively does.
From a sporting point of view as a competitor I guess it could be frustrating and pleasing in equal measures, they all know it can happen though, and it forms part of the challenge in how they react to it, how they take advantage or how they recover or not from it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2010 10:57AM by J i m.
As I recall the safety car as we know it... when was it introduced? 1993? That kind of time I think,
Silverstone 1992, after the "Wet Race/Dry Race" rule threw the French GP into chaos. But you're right in a way, because the first time the Safety Car came out on the track during a race and backed the pack up was Interlagos 1993(The first introduction of the SC during a race was supposed to have been Hungary in 1992, but no official car went out onto the track despite the SC boards being held out everywhere, and the race carried on as normal, so that can't really count IMO).
Silverstone 1992, after the "Wet Race/Dry Race" rule threw the French GP into chaos. But you're right in a way, because the first time the Safety Car came out on the track during a race and backed the pack up was Interlagos 1993(The first introduction of the SC during a race was supposed to have been Hungary in 1992, but no official car went out onto the track despite the SC boards being held out everywhere, and the race carried on as normal, so that can't really count IMO).
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