Road minister brands hamilton a d***k head
Posted by miffy
i thought that Aussies are more creative with invectives
marcl Wrote:
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> I remember Mansell, Senna, Button, MS, Fissi,
> Alesi etc getting done for speeding and driving
> offences.
Yeah, but with those guys the driving/speeding offences tended not to be just the latest in a long and frequent list of silly things the driver had done/said.
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> I remember Mansell, Senna, Button, MS, Fissi,
> Alesi etc getting done for speeding and driving
> offences.
Yeah, but with those guys the driving/speeding offences tended not to be just the latest in a long and frequent list of silly things the driver had done/said.
He's just saying what some of us have said from mid 2007, and many since early 2009. 
After the race and after hearing him complain on the radio like he did ive lost alot of the respect I gained for him last year. He had no right to say the team cost him a better result.
When did you EVER hear them complain at his mistakes in Monaco or Monza??
As for the driving offence, agreed, its been made out to be so much more! And on Lewis not being motivated on the Saturday or being down because of it ... all I can say is, get a f*cking grip! move on, and go by a new f*cking car with the millions you own! (yes I know its not about the car but still ... :p)! I couldnt help but feel it was an excuse for him not getting the performance. The same way Button has said he's not confortable, its probably true, but its an excuse
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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
When did you EVER hear them complain at his mistakes in Monaco or Monza??
As for the driving offence, agreed, its been made out to be so much more! And on Lewis not being motivated on the Saturday or being down because of it ... all I can say is, get a f*cking grip! move on, and go by a new f*cking car with the millions you own! (yes I know its not about the car but still ... :p)! I couldnt help but feel it was an excuse for him not getting the performance. The same way Button has said he's not confortable, its probably true, but its an excuse
!"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
marcl Wrote:
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> What makes me laugh a bit is that he is not the
> 1st F1 driver to be pulled over yet everyone is
> making such a big deal out of it.
>
> I remember Mansell, Senna, Button, MS, Fissi,
> Alesi etc getting done for speeding and driving
> offences.
I think this is a bit different though. Its one thing to be caught on the open road, but to be stupid enough to do a burnout outside a major event, where there are always police around, was particularly worthy of criticism. Furthermore, I'm sure police could argue that there is a high chance of pedestrians being on the road late at night on a Friday night. Furthermore, someone was killed on that stretch earlier that day, so its probably not a surprise that police were particularly vigilant.
As Slash said, the only reason for the di*khead comment was because of the safety campaign that has been launched.
X (@ed24f1)
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> What makes me laugh a bit is that he is not the
> 1st F1 driver to be pulled over yet everyone is
> making such a big deal out of it.
>
> I remember Mansell, Senna, Button, MS, Fissi,
> Alesi etc getting done for speeding and driving
> offences.
I think this is a bit different though. Its one thing to be caught on the open road, but to be stupid enough to do a burnout outside a major event, where there are always police around, was particularly worthy of criticism. Furthermore, I'm sure police could argue that there is a high chance of pedestrians being on the road late at night on a Friday night. Furthermore, someone was killed on that stretch earlier that day, so its probably not a surprise that police were particularly vigilant.
As Slash said, the only reason for the di*khead comment was because of the safety campaign that has been launched.
X (@ed24f1)
The sad fact is, here in Australia, as far as the road rules are concerned, we are over regulated. To the point where Australian drivers are more concerned about not copping a speeding ticket for driving 3klm over the limit than they are about road safety. It's not about safety, it's about revenue, every poll taken has shown that fact. Less regulated countries, with far more vehicles on the road, actually have a lower road toll.
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> The sad fact is, here in Australia, as far as the
> road rules are concerned, we are over regulated.
> To the point where Australian drivers are more
> concerned about not copping a speeding ticket for
> driving 3klm over the limit than they are about
> road safety. It's not about safety, it's about
> revenue, every poll taken has shown that fact.
> Less regulated countries, with far more vehicles
> on the road, actually have a lower road toll.
Yes, and that's why I wasn't particularly surprised that 72% agreed with Webber's "nanny state" comments.
The case in point is probably Germany. If you asked most governments around the world to remove speed limits from their motorways, they would laugh, and yet the figures seem to indicate it actually assists in reducing incidents.
X (@ed24f1)
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> The sad fact is, here in Australia, as far as the
> road rules are concerned, we are over regulated.
> To the point where Australian drivers are more
> concerned about not copping a speeding ticket for
> driving 3klm over the limit than they are about
> road safety. It's not about safety, it's about
> revenue, every poll taken has shown that fact.
> Less regulated countries, with far more vehicles
> on the road, actually have a lower road toll.
Yes, and that's why I wasn't particularly surprised that 72% agreed with Webber's "nanny state" comments.
The case in point is probably Germany. If you asked most governments around the world to remove speed limits from their motorways, they would laugh, and yet the figures seem to indicate it actually assists in reducing incidents.
X (@ed24f1)
Chet Lewis actually said the police thing did not effect him, it was Mclaren saying it did. His reason for 11th place was not being fast enough as he did not heat his tyres up properly.
And again a load of other drivers have complained about team tactics in public before and over the radio its nothing new. I do admit I thought was over over the top what Lewis said but I can see his point he done everything he could do and felt let down. When he crashed in Monaco and Monza he held his hands up and said sorry, and he has in public about what he said this time.
So everyone who is saying he is a dick for breaking the road laws, I assume you have never broken the speed limit or wheel spun as both them things are also illegal in the uk
And again a load of other drivers have complained about team tactics in public before and over the radio its nothing new. I do admit I thought was over over the top what Lewis said but I can see his point he done everything he could do and felt let down. When he crashed in Monaco and Monza he held his hands up and said sorry, and he has in public about what he said this time.
So everyone who is saying he is a dick for breaking the road laws, I assume you have never broken the speed limit or wheel spun as both them things are also illegal in the uk
mortal Wrote:
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> The sad fact is, here in Australia, as far as the
> road rules are concerned, we are over regulated.
> To the point where Australian drivers are more
> concerned about not copping a speeding ticket for
> driving 3klm over the limit than they are about
> road safety. It's not about safety, it's about
> revenue, every poll taken has shown that fact.
> Less regulated countries, with far more vehicles
> on the road, actually have a lower road toll.
it's exactly the same in the UK. we are all so scared of being caught by a camera that you deliberately slow down or cover the brakes through a camera zone, and spend more time looking at your speedo than the road ahead. and it's clearly not for safety, it's just an endless revenue stream for the authorities.
and speed itself is not the issue. it's the inappropriate use of speed that's dangerous, like driving at 40 past a school, whereas doing 100mph on the motorway can be perfectly safe if the traffic, weather, and road conditions all allow.
also, the tolerance around the official speed limit for any road is purely at the discretion of the officer who caught you. one might let you off at 35mph in a 30 zone, another might do you for 31mph.
but yeah, what Lewis did outside the racetrack in a place that was packed with people and police was just stupid.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/30/2010 11:08PM by Muks_C.
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> The sad fact is, here in Australia, as far as the
> road rules are concerned, we are over regulated.
> To the point where Australian drivers are more
> concerned about not copping a speeding ticket for
> driving 3klm over the limit than they are about
> road safety. It's not about safety, it's about
> revenue, every poll taken has shown that fact.
> Less regulated countries, with far more vehicles
> on the road, actually have a lower road toll.
it's exactly the same in the UK. we are all so scared of being caught by a camera that you deliberately slow down or cover the brakes through a camera zone, and spend more time looking at your speedo than the road ahead. and it's clearly not for safety, it's just an endless revenue stream for the authorities.
and speed itself is not the issue. it's the inappropriate use of speed that's dangerous, like driving at 40 past a school, whereas doing 100mph on the motorway can be perfectly safe if the traffic, weather, and road conditions all allow.
also, the tolerance around the official speed limit for any road is purely at the discretion of the officer who caught you. one might let you off at 35mph in a 30 zone, another might do you for 31mph.
but yeah, what Lewis did outside the racetrack in a place that was packed with people and police was just stupid.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/30/2010 11:08PM by Muks_C.
no video of the actual burnout, but some of the aftermath here on the news and with the police:
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to be honest, if anyone is going to be wheelspinning on the road, i'd rather it was someone highly skilled in car control such as an F1 driver, than a random idiot boyracer in a souped-up shitbox showing off to his mates.
it was done in the wrong environment, but i'm sure he was safe at all times, i doubt anyone was in any real danger. it's just blown out of proportion because of who he is. just a lack of judgement on his part really. role model or not, i don't think everyone should come down on him so hard as if they have never done anything silly before.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
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to be honest, if anyone is going to be wheelspinning on the road, i'd rather it was someone highly skilled in car control such as an F1 driver, than a random idiot boyracer in a souped-up shitbox showing off to his mates.
it was done in the wrong environment, but i'm sure he was safe at all times, i doubt anyone was in any real danger. it's just blown out of proportion because of who he is. just a lack of judgement on his part really. role model or not, i don't think everyone should come down on him so hard as if they have never done anything silly before.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
i keep wheelspinning my corolla by accident (stupid clutch is wrecked) - didn't know it was an offence over here...
Lewis was just a complete tit all weekend. First his comments on webber, then the speeding fine, then bitching to the team about strategy... If i was mclaren, i'd be saying "well button is capable of making his own tyre choices, so why can't you?"
Wasn't it mansell who got caught speeding, and a cop pulls him over and says "who do you think you are? Ayrton Senna?"
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Lewis was just a complete tit all weekend. First his comments on webber, then the speeding fine, then bitching to the team about strategy... If i was mclaren, i'd be saying "well button is capable of making his own tyre choices, so why can't you?"
Wasn't it mansell who got caught speeding, and a cop pulls him over and says "who do you think you are? Ayrton Senna?"
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