F-1 team radio's origin

Posted by abdelkader 
F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 16, 2009 11:21PM
Posted by: abdelkader
Hi .

I have got a question concerning team radio. Namely, when eactly did it appear in F-1 to the extent we know it now, by means of which drivers can communicate with their engineers, get info about their position, laps to go, the strategy etc.

When was the last time the F-1 drivers drove their cars being "blindfold" with no external information?



Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 16, 2009 11:44PM
Posted by: EC83
Team radio was first used during races in 1984, so I'd imagine the last time drivers had no direct radio communication was in the mid-1980s.

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Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 16, 2009 11:55PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
Wasn't it Renault who pioneered it? I remember Clive James quite taking the proverbial pee over their technological advantage over the rest of the field!



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Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 17, 2009 01:04AM
Posted by: EC83
Clive James = LOL

Not sure, and Google isn't yielding me much info on it, but they might well have. I do know Renault made headlines in the same era(1985) when they became the first team to run a camera car in the German GP.



Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 17, 2009 01:19AM
Posted by: turkey_machine
I seem to vividly remember Clive James saying how Renault had to tell Derek Warwick ways to slow down and save fuel at Imola 1984 in order to save fuel. But his best quote was about Kyalami that year: "Anything as fast as the McLarens fell apart, anything as reliable finished later!"



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Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 17, 2009 01:41AM
Posted by: EC83
Off the top of my head, my favourite Clive James comments were about Keke Rosberg needing a special helmet with a cigarette hole in the front of it, and Huub Rothengatter "trying to hump Dumfries' rear wheel" at Paul Ricard in '86 :P
But there were plenty more that made me LMAO



Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 17, 2009 02:54AM
Posted by: The Lopper
In fairness, drivers have pretty much never driven without external communication though. For time immemorable, as long as there have been laps, drivers have been able to communicate with team members by the pit-wall/equivalent, through signs, hand signals, etc...



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Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 17, 2009 11:29AM
Posted by: marwood82
i don't know,

but i did read an article once titled, 'bugging the wolf' in which the writer was listening in on radio convestations between jody scheckter and his engineer at the 1977 swedish GP. (but that could have been via an intercom system) i recall with the first ones, the engineers, plugged themselves into the car to talk
Re: F-1 team radio's origin
Date: March 21, 2009 10:02AM
Posted by: TimmyB
marwood82 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> i don't know,
>
> but i did read an article once titled, 'bugging
> the wolf' in which the writer was listening in on
> radio convestations between jody scheckter and his
> engineer at the 1977 swedish GP. (but that could
> have been via an intercom system) i recall with
> the first ones, the engineers, plugged themselves
> into the car to talk

Yes, that's true. A Discovery Channel documentary titled 'The Secret Life of Formula 1' said that Colin Chapman was one of the first to use this system so that he could talk easily to the guys about the car whilst in the pits. The bloke was a pilot and implemented the same communication technology in F1.

Chapman does it again! (Early 70's)
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