Alonso A Revalation?
Posted by Shinnbob
I have never been the biggest Alonso fan, even before the Hamilton - Mclaren incident. However this year (along with Kubica) hes been my driver of the year. Even without his two victories he has put Piquet to shame and kept the Renault competitive.
Most Brits really don't like Alonso, which i can appreciate, however think he has shown a maturity this year and this year. Best luck too him next year with maybe a more a competitive car, and hopefully a more competitive teamate.
Most Brits really don't like Alonso, which i can appreciate, however think he has shown a maturity this year and this year. Best luck too him next year with maybe a more a competitive car, and hopefully a more competitive teamate.
or it could be that the petulent little pup has got the team geared up to run around him.
You saw how he spat his dummy out of the pram at mclaren last year when he couldnt get his own way, and was upstaged by a rookie
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You saw how he spat his dummy out of the pram at mclaren last year when he couldnt get his own way, and was upstaged by a rookie
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But Renault would be nowhere without him, he has outqualified Piquet every race, and hell if people are running round after him its making the team actually pull their finger out
Shinnbob Wrote:
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> But Renault would be nowhere without him, he has
> outqualified Piquet every race, and hell if people
> are running round after him its making the team
> actually pull their finger out
its not really hard to make Piquet look average to be fair, even the safety car can post faster laps than him :P
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> But Renault would be nowhere without him, he has
> outqualified Piquet every race, and hell if people
> are running round after him its making the team
> actually pull their finger out
its not really hard to make Piquet look average to be fair, even the safety car can post faster laps than him :P
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Bwahaha, Kimi the crash machine and Heikki the wingman hehe :P
@ LS - show me a World Champion in the last 20 years who HASN'T had a team built around him. It's just the way things get done in F1 nowadays. There's nothing wrong with Alonso's situation (let's not forget Schumacher had it even better) and even despite the fact that he's receiving a lot of support from the team, you can't deny that his recent efforts haven't been far short of awesome.
Where on Earth was Renault's development earlier in the season?? He could have been world champion easy, what with Lewis and Felipe determined to score as few points as possible.
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Where on Earth was Renault's development earlier in the season?? He could have been world champion easy, what with Lewis and Felipe determined to score as few points as possible.
Locke Cole Wrote:
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> Where on Earth was Renault's development earlier
> in the season?? He could have been world champion
> easy, what with Lewis and Felipe determined to
> score as few points as possible.
You can't just bring development plans forward 6 months. They're racing parts which presumably had only just entered the heads of the design team back in March. It's called R&D for a reason.
That's like saying "why the hell were Honda so far off the pace in 2008? They're challenging for wins now." in 3 years time or something.
And he still wouldn't be world champion. He's had race winning pace in only 2 grand prix, which he just so happened to win, and one of those was as lucky as Piquet got in Hockenheim.
He's been fantastic entertainment this season, but he's had nothing to lose either, so his cavalier approach to the year has cost him too. It's a lot easier to go all out doing everything and more when it's going to cost you little. That he's still digging deeper than deep in the Renault is refreshment in itself, but most seasons it wouldn't get you a title (maybe this one, given how @#$%& they've all been, but you know what I mean
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vesuvius Wrote:
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> Alonso has had few very good races and some very
> very lucky ones and then some very bad
> ones.Renault is now a very good car and faster
> than BMW so Alonso has only done what he should
> have done.Last year Renault was not so good but
> neither were they good until the middle of this
> season.
I disagree with that. That he was able to challenge in 2 races is a massive achievement in itself. He is faster than the BMWs now, but he's still wringing its neck to get to where he is. All but 2 current drivers would be capable of getting half the performance out of that car that Alonso is.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2008 10:11AM by gav.
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> Where on Earth was Renault's development earlier
> in the season?? He could have been world champion
> easy, what with Lewis and Felipe determined to
> score as few points as possible.
You can't just bring development plans forward 6 months. They're racing parts which presumably had only just entered the heads of the design team back in March. It's called R&D for a reason.
That's like saying "why the hell were Honda so far off the pace in 2008? They're challenging for wins now." in 3 years time or something.
And he still wouldn't be world champion. He's had race winning pace in only 2 grand prix, which he just so happened to win, and one of those was as lucky as Piquet got in Hockenheim.
He's been fantastic entertainment this season, but he's had nothing to lose either, so his cavalier approach to the year has cost him too. It's a lot easier to go all out doing everything and more when it's going to cost you little. That he's still digging deeper than deep in the Renault is refreshment in itself, but most seasons it wouldn't get you a title (maybe this one, given how @#$%& they've all been, but you know what I mean
).vesuvius Wrote:
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> Alonso has had few very good races and some very
> very lucky ones and then some very bad
> ones.Renault is now a very good car and faster
> than BMW so Alonso has only done what he should
> have done.Last year Renault was not so good but
> neither were they good until the middle of this
> season.
I disagree with that. That he was able to challenge in 2 races is a massive achievement in itself. He is faster than the BMWs now, but he's still wringing its neck to get to where he is. All but 2 current drivers would be capable of getting half the performance out of that car that Alonso is.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2008 10:11AM by gav.
Alonso actually dissapointed me in the first half, many mistakes to. Though the second half he was brilliant. But I think that doesnt only has to do with Fernando, I think the Renault team in general has grown in the 2nd half, seeing Piquet got some good points to.
vesuvius Wrote:
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> Guimengo Wrote:
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> > You're biased towards Kimi and Heikki, no :p
>
>
> nope that hasn't got to do anything with this, I
> just say what I believe is correct, none of the
> drivers build their cars, other people does that.
LOL!
Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?
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> Guimengo Wrote:
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> > You're biased towards Kimi and Heikki, no :p
>
>
> nope that hasn't got to do anything with this, I
> just say what I believe is correct, none of the
> drivers build their cars, other people does that.
LOL!
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> vesuvius Wrote:
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> > Guimengo Wrote:
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> > > You're biased towards Kimi and Heikki, no :p
> >
> >
> > nope that hasn't got to do anything with this,
> I
> > just say what I believe is correct, none of the
> > drivers build their cars, other people does
> that.
>
>
>
> LOL!
your not doing anything else iwe..
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> vesuvius Wrote:
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> > Guimengo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > > You're biased towards Kimi and Heikki, no :p
> >
> >
> > nope that hasn't got to do anything with this,
> I
> > just say what I believe is correct, none of the
> > drivers build their cars, other people does
> that.
>
>
>
> LOL!
your not doing anything else iwe..
Alonso Is a great Driver but i can't stand for what he did at Mclaren
Nobody in life, business or Sport should act that way so for me he will always be a bit tarnished!
But at the same time i like having him in F1 more top drivers the better!
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Nobody in life, business or Sport should act that way so for me he will always be a bit tarnished!
But at the same time i like having him in F1 more top drivers the better!
If Renault can build Nando a car next year that is only a tenth or two away from the Ferrari and Mclaren cars then he will do the rest. Overdrove in the first half of the year, but once he developed the car into to what it is now, he drove flawlessly. There is no top 6, no top 3, just a top 1.
For me Kubica and even more Vettel are drivers of the year.
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