F1 2002 Mod [WIP] (Closed)

This is not leeching meerly converting, plus leaching imo is taking others work and saying its yours, they are clearly not doing that but converting the work.

Seems these days everyone tries to accuse people of leeching and tries to catch others out...

Carry on guys, looks good! Its good that we have people trying to bring new things to GP4

thank you craig, just what I needed to hear


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Craigo Wrote:
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> Seems these days everyone tries to accuse people
> of leeching and tries to catch others out...

Yep, and its a shame some people do that.
As i said several times on this forum about the
flexibility to use a works of authors.

Craigo Wrote:
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> Carry on guys, looks good! Its good that we have
> people trying to bring new things to GP4

I totally agree bringing other works from other games to gp4.
Their so many nice cars and tracks that could be converted
to Gp4 and that we could all enjoy.

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for the helmets, contact Locke123, he has an almost finished 2002 helmet set i believe

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X (@ed24f1)

Any clue for Internal and External Steering Wheels for this season?

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I have contacted Locke about the helmets some time ago, but did not get any answer

and external steeringwheel, Im almost certain that they don't exists yet


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ok. i contacted him back in july and he said they would be ready for release in a few weeks, so not sure where he is gone.

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X (@ed24f1)

EA couldn't give two @#$%& about what a bunch of modders are doing with a game put out YEARS ago. The PC market isn't even a primary focus of theirs anymore...



"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2008 08:37PM by Jagdpanzer.

Exactly jagdpanzer so carry on guys, will enyoy seeing Sato crashing his Jordan .

yes, but i bet if you converted CTDPs rfactor mods to GP4 you would be accused of leaching, thats converting too. i cant beleive how people in this forum are, protecting with huge vigour any work by a forum regular when someone dares to include it into a mod without asking, but then when they do something like this, its all ok with the forum regulars, i wonder how the makers of these cars feel, the only way we will find out is if someone, ie, 'I' now go and tell them. hopefully one of them will reply here. If they dont care, its fine with me, thats not the issues, the issue is at least we will know, its better then 'not' asking and promoting leaching and showing the grandprixgames.org forum to be two faced.

The difference is ctdp are a private modding group and companies like ea and simbin are not.Lots of games have been cross modded without permission because its the stuff that came as standard with the game,like rfactor,s normal cars are all available for gtr2 and all gtr2 cars are now available for evo. If these cars were made by a private company then for sure permission would be asked,but i doubt ea would even have the time of day for people like us. I converted the single seater series from race07 to gp4 and didnt hear anyone complain about that,whats the difference here ? Nothing. These cars will be converted whether you like it or not.I wont bother responding to this crap again all progress on these cars can be found HERE

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thank you Lee!

as he said, these cars are standard with the game, CTDPs are not. That's the big difference here! I won't either gonna listen to any more of these conversations, so just suck it up!

and for that matter, if you insists that this is leeching, don't play the cars at all when it's released! You know what we can do? We can fix so you won't be able to download the cars at all.. then you are doing the "right" thing!


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Or instead of releasing it we,ll just send private links to the people who actually want it.

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yes, Lee that would be even better

quickslick Wrote:
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> yes, Lee that would be even better

+ 100

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great idea Lee, Im on it.. all troubles would be gone


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Well sign me in when its ready
Godspeed.

I can't believe so many people are settling for PM. Release the damn thing with proper credits to whoever did what.

interesting LWC lee what you say about the difference between commercial and private. i thought commercial is still within copyright laws, what makes a privately made car more special? why is someone who uses a private made car for a new mod slagged on by gp4 community regulars??? gp4 community law. I actually think your converted mod is leeching too, but no time to post in every thread :p not everyone is a leeching policeman like some in gp4 community.
Ok then i see the difference,

modify or use in a mod a privately made car = leeching
modify or use in a mod a commercial made car (which has copyright details on the box and in instructions) = all ok


See the difference is, commercial makers arent members of the forums and arent there to tell you off, then it is OK, thats why your converted stuff from rfactor has passed under the rador. private car makers do scour the forums, so you are told off straight away.
So to me it is still the same thing, and it gets me very annoyed when some young new gp4 player tries to make a mod for gp4 using cars made by private makers, and he is straight away jumped on and slagged on and pretty much kicked out of the community because he didnt know of these gp4 community laws, he just thought in the exact same way that you LEE think with commercial made files. I see it time and time again in this particular forum. Thats my main reason for standing up to this Mod being made, on principle, but go ahead do what you want.

I think PM is better, so you dont show the whole world your leeching ways, and will probably leave you with less guilt having your name on work made without authors permission.

dkpioe Wrote:
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> interesting LWC lee what you say about the
> difference between commercial and private. i
> thought commercial is still within copyright laws,
> what makes a privately made car more special? why
> is someone who uses a private made car for a new
> mod slagged on by gp4 community regulars??? gp4
> community law. I actually think your converted mod
> is leeching too, but no time to post in every
> thread :p not everyone is a leeching policeman
> like some in gp4 community.
> Ok then i see the difference,
>
> modify or use in a mod a privately made car =
> leeching
> modify or use in a mod a commercial made car
> (which has copyright details on the box and in
> instructions) = all ok
>
>
> See the difference is, commercial makers arent
> members of the forums and arent there to tell you
> off, then it is OK, thats why your converted stuff
> from rfactor has passed under the rador. private
> car makers do scour the forums, so you are told
> off straight away.
> So to me it is still the same thing, and it gets
> me very annoyed when some young new gp4 player
> tries to make a mod for gp4 using cars made by
> private makers, and he is straight away jumped on
> and slagged on and pretty much kicked out of the
> community because he didnt know of these gp4
> community laws, he just thought in the exact same
> way that you LEE think with commercial made files.
> I see it time and time again in this particular
> forum. Thats my main reason for standing up to
> this Mod being made, on principle, but go ahead do
> what you want.
>
> I think PM is better, so you dont show the whole
> world your leeching ways, and will probably leave
> you with less guilt having your name on work made
> without authors permission.


Lol, all my rfactor conversions have had permissions from the authors,so goes to show you how little you actually know, the only permissions i never had are the actual simbin converts so please feel free to call me what you want, your opinion means absolutely nothing. Also when ive had permissions denied i then scrapped the work on mods, so how is that leeching ? Like i said from now on my releases will by pm only and i will choose who i decide to give links to. And yes, this mod will continue. Deal with it.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2008 06:02PM by LWC.