Osama Bin Laden killed **SENSITIVE**

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> curious thing
> Bin Laden´s family was a sponsor of Williams in
> 1979-80

i find more curious that bin laden family had ties with bush sr. & jr. (and hussein aswell) in the petroleum industry that broke some time before 9/11 happened. i don't really care if he lives or not, they'll still have religion as an excuse for whatever they do when it really isn't, i hate how everyone's stuck in the middle ages (the royal wedding thing is another example but that's a joyous event and the only ridiculous thing about it is the actual ceremony).

p.s. yes, atheist



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they'll still have religion as an excuse for whatever they do

Of course it's way better to be killed for economic or scientific reasons than because of religion.

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i hate how everyone's stuck in the middle ages

No worrries. Looking at what happens in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, Yemen and so on they went twice as fast from the Middle Ages to the Age of Enlightment then we did.

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completely agree with your point of view but i'd like to add that i obviously don't see there being any excuse for killing anyone (utopia) but we could get moar philosophical but that would just be so off-topic so i'll just throw out an idea that irrationality destroys itself and in some cases everything that's around it

edit: also what i meant was that religion is brought as the reason for certain deeds even when it's not and is fed to the people who gladly accept that.



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And you would be surprised how many so called religious leaders who comitted genocides actually were atheists.

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Well the speculation about the after-effects of this is well underway - accusations that Pakistan was harbouring bin Laden, and annoyance from Pakistan that America carried out this operation in their country without their permission :-/

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lets give them another few hundred million. that ought to do for a few more weeks.


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Vader Wrote:
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> And you would be surprised

not at all, it's clear that to turn people's beliefs into institutions you need brains not faith in god(s) or whatnot. I wasn't suggesting that the ones bringing that excuse are religious themselves and are not aiming for something absolutely different.

Again, don't get me wrong but imo pakistan has every right to be pissed if they honestly hadn't given permission. Also, just because they come from a different cultural background, doesn't mean they're wrong in allegedly harbouring bin laden - a man who in a lot of their eyes backlashed to the cultures that came to invade their (islamic) lands (be it for oil or something else). The bottom line imo is that it's a long-lasting dispute and will definitely not end well for the side who a certain president called 'evil', so either get on with it (which probably has as many supporters as bin laden) or back off (which probably has equal support).



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All we hear are conflicting statements and it's (as usual) hard to tell what is propaganda (on both sides), defensive strategy or the "truth" (don't ask me). Unless the US gov let's us see the video they streamed into White House we can't be sure.

About Pakistan - who says they haven't been involved? All we have is the statemenmt of the US and the Pakistam gov - but what does that really mean? If the Pakistan gov knew about it and gave green light (not that a "NO" would had stopped US anyway) there could be revolts now. Maybe they pretend not to have known about it now to calm down their people? And the US wouldn't be interested in a Pakistan in upheaval so they play along? Are we all paranoid by now?

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Vader Wrote:
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> Maybe they
> pretend not to have known about it now to calm
> down their people? And the US wouldn't be
> interested in a Pakistan in upheaval so they play
> along?

This could well be the most accurate theory IMO, yep.

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Ah well. Obama Martinis all round then?

Only takes 2 shots. And a splash of water.

:P


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Navy SEALS:

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Pakistan doesn't have much right to be pissed. They've either been harboring the world's most wanted man or they're totally unobservant and incompetant, or more likely, some of both. Letting them know could have compromised the whole thing.

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Pakistan doesn't have much right to be pissed. They've either been harboring the world's most wanted man or they're totally unobservant and incompetant, or more likely, some of both. Letting them know could have compromised the whole thing.

Maybe even this is only half the truth.


'Pakistan told US about compound in 2009'

[tribune.com.pk]

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Bin Laden's dead. The world's pretty much the same as it was before.

All he did was stand as a figurehead, and there's no way he was the single brain behind the operation. The more dangerous people are working behind the scenes.

Please pardon my cynicism.

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The latest iOS release to fix the iPhone location tracking 'bug' came a few days late for Mr. Bin Laden....

Gosh, maybe now I can buy guitar pedals abroad and NOT cause incidents at airport security!

I love how there's one of those annoying spam/virus links going round Facebook which promises to show you a photo of bin Laden after he'd been shot, Obama has gone on record as saying that no such photos are going to get released, but people keep on clicking the link anyway.
Much win.

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yeah, its only the doctored one they released a few years ago anyway.


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mortal Wrote:
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> We have a winner. +1

+2 i.e. a bi-winner