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Posted by gav
If you don't like the moderation the only thing I can suggest is you go elsewhere 
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[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 CentralOf course you are, freedom of speech and all that, wether we, as in all of the moderators, actually take any notice is another story. 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2008 11:42AM by mortal.
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I cannot stop the user going to an internet cafe or school, and re-logging in, if we block a whole ip range to prevent him coming back in other users may not be able to get in as well. I'm well aware the user you are talking about is back on site, I'm thinking about it, and for the record, I'm not the only one who moderates posts here As for consistency, what may be offensive to one, might not be offensive to another, you'll just have to put up with it.
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As for consistency, what may be offensive to one, might not be offensive to another, you'll just have to put up with it. [www.mediafire.com] Some say you should click it, you know you want to.
[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 CentralAs for consistency, what may be offensive to one, might not be offensive to another, you'll just have to put up with it.
And that's a big problem. People are too easily offenced these days. I assume Gavs post was a joke. Someone reported it and it got removed. Only because one person complained, it got removed. The people who tell 'offensive' jokes generally don't actually mean that. If I were to make a joke about how people from this and that country are all criminals, doesn't mean I actually mean that. People in 'this and that' should understand that, but no, instead are insulted. Everyone has the right to be insulted, but only if you actually have a reason to be so. People fail to see the difference between joke and insult. And that's why that post has been reported and therefore removed, because someone was easily insulted, apparently. People need to be more tolerant.
And that's a big problem. People are too easily offenced these days. I assume Gavs post was a joke. Someone reported it and it got removed. Only because one person complained, it got removed. The people who tell 'offensive' jokes generally don't actually mean that. If I were to make a joke about how people from this and that country are all criminals, doesn't mean I actually mean that. People in 'this and that' should understand that, but no, instead are insulted. Everyone has the right to be insulted, but only if you actually have a reason to be so. People fail to see the difference between joke and insult. And that's why that post has been reported and therefore removed, because someone was easily insulted, apparently. People need to be more tolerant.
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Nickv Wrote:
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> As for consistency, what may be offensive to one,
> might not be offensive to another, you'll just
> have to put up with it.
>
> And that's a big problem. People are too easily
> offenced these days. I assume Gavs post was a
> joke. Someone reported it and it got removed. Only
> because one person complained, it got removed. The
> people who tell 'offensive' jokes generally don't
> actually mean that. If I were to make a joke about
> how people from this and that country are all
> criminals, doesn't mean I actually mean that.
> People in 'this and that' should understand that,
> but no, instead are insulted. Everyone has the
> right to be insulted, but only if you actually
> have a reason to be so. People fail to see the
> difference between joke and insult. And that's why
> that post has been reported and therefore removed,
> because someone was easily insulted, apparently.
> People need to be more tolerant.
Joke? I scanned in Brnco's birth certificate. It's not my fault his mother wouldn't tell him I was his real dad.
Seriously, I don't know why the post was reported or removed. It wasn't offensive in any way I can think of (ie remember). He said I was a peasant, so I made a reply saying I'd send something via a means only peasants would know. If my post was removed, why wasn't his? Was I offending peasants by outing them as merely real people, and not the God-like figures they are in Warcraft?
:S
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> As for consistency, what may be offensive to one,
> might not be offensive to another, you'll just
> have to put up with it.
>
> And that's a big problem. People are too easily
> offenced these days. I assume Gavs post was a
> joke. Someone reported it and it got removed. Only
> because one person complained, it got removed. The
> people who tell 'offensive' jokes generally don't
> actually mean that. If I were to make a joke about
> how people from this and that country are all
> criminals, doesn't mean I actually mean that.
> People in 'this and that' should understand that,
> but no, instead are insulted. Everyone has the
> right to be insulted, but only if you actually
> have a reason to be so. People fail to see the
> difference between joke and insult. And that's why
> that post has been reported and therefore removed,
> because someone was easily insulted, apparently.
> People need to be more tolerant.
Joke? I scanned in Brnco's birth certificate. It's not my fault his mother wouldn't tell him I was his real dad.
Seriously, I don't know why the post was reported or removed. It wasn't offensive in any way I can think of (ie remember). He said I was a peasant, so I made a reply saying I'd send something via a means only peasants would know. If my post was removed, why wasn't his? Was I offending peasants by outing them as merely real people, and not the God-like figures they are in Warcraft?
:S
As for consistency, what may be offensive to one, might not be offensive to another, you'll just have to put up with it.
You dodged that point well, however not well enough. That is not what I said or asked. Why is the moderation not consistent? We have people who go through this forum posting purely abuse and it took months for them to be moderated. Then we have the slightly questionable jokes, which are also ignored (fair enough) and then we get a normal, unoffensive post, and it is removed? This isn't about what is offensive being inconsistent, it is about the moderators being inconsistent.
I was a mod before. It isn't an easy task. But it seems that 1 or 2 people are just on an ego trip here and removing posts whenever they feel like it.
I'm not the only one who moderates posts here
you have a private forum. Use it. It might be of some use to you in sorting out this place. But heres a small tip - removing non-offensive posts because you got a complaint is not how to sort it out. If thats how it goes then every time you post, I am going to report it as being offensive, and therefore it must be removed.
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You dodged that point well, however not well enough. That is not what I said or asked. Why is the moderation not consistent? We have people who go through this forum posting purely abuse and it took months for them to be moderated. Then we have the slightly questionable jokes, which are also ignored (fair enough) and then we get a normal, unoffensive post, and it is removed? This isn't about what is offensive being inconsistent, it is about the moderators being inconsistent.
I was a mod before. It isn't an easy task. But it seems that 1 or 2 people are just on an ego trip here and removing posts whenever they feel like it.
I'm not the only one who moderates posts here
you have a private forum. Use it. It might be of some use to you in sorting out this place. But heres a small tip - removing non-offensive posts because you got a complaint is not how to sort it out. If thats how it goes then every time you post, I am going to report it as being offensive, and therefore it must be removed.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2008 01:13AM by DaveEllis.
Apparently the post that was removed, referred in some way to 'child pornography', perhaps in its original context it was considered offensive enough to be removed by the moderator that did so. Had I seen it, I might have done so myself.
You are quite right in saying that it is a difficult job, I keep in mind that you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. On this site people do not get banned on a daily basis, unlike some sites that seem to revel in it. I find it distasteful to do so.
I get numerous pm's asking me to ban particular users.......so should I name names, no I will not, but I choose not to listen instead. You can call that an ego trip, or call it whatever you like.
Also, due to time constraints, not all posts can be read to determine content, therefore the moderators are reliant on reports, if a report is not made, we may well be unaware of any abuse that is occurring, that may explain why some posts were or are not moderated.
Finally, with regard to brnco calling gav a peasant, and then having the audacity to cry to me over it via the pm service, I told him straight out that he probably asked for it. I have already told him once before you get back what you give out, it's karma. End of story.
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You are quite right in saying that it is a difficult job, I keep in mind that you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time
. On this site people do not get banned on a daily basis, unlike some sites that seem to revel in it. I find it distasteful to do so.I get numerous pm's asking me to ban particular users.......so should I name names, no I will not, but I choose not to listen instead. You can call that an ego trip, or call it whatever you like.
Also, due to time constraints, not all posts can be read to determine content, therefore the moderators are reliant on reports, if a report is not made, we may well be unaware of any abuse that is occurring, that may explain why some posts were or are not moderated.
Finally, with regard to brnco calling gav a peasant, and then having the audacity to cry to me over it via the pm service, I told him straight out that he probably asked for it. I have already told him once before you get back what you give out, it's karma. End of story.
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[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 CentralThe post itself wasn't offensive it was disgusting.
There is a difference between offensive and disgusting post, offensive post is offensive only to
the one that it is aimed to. Disgusting post is offensive to general audience. If I say "gav you are a peasant" than it is offensive to gav only and
it's original purpose was to offend gav. Gav's post was inapropriate for general audience because it
referred to things that are disgusting and above all illegal. Peasants are not disgusting and are not
illegal. I have nothing against insults, BTW it was I who started the whole thing with insulting people etc.
but we have to think about general audience. We are forgetting that minors are reading this forums aswell
and his post was not appropriate for those readers. You can insult as much as you want and it can be fun
for all, even for the insulted one. But you have to know where are the limits, not because of the one
you have just insulted but because of the general audience.
And I didn't cry over it to mortal because I was offended, I cried because gav posted disgusting post, and that
didn't got him banned. So I question myself will he ever get banned?
are you blind? -no, I'm deaf, can't you see? -no, I'm blind.
There is a difference between offensive and disgusting post, offensive post is offensive only to
the one that it is aimed to. Disgusting post is offensive to general audience. If I say "gav you are a peasant" than it is offensive to gav only and
it's original purpose was to offend gav. Gav's post was inapropriate for general audience because it
referred to things that are disgusting and above all illegal. Peasants are not disgusting and are not
illegal. I have nothing against insults, BTW it was I who started the whole thing with insulting people etc.
but we have to think about general audience. We are forgetting that minors are reading this forums aswell
and his post was not appropriate for those readers. You can insult as much as you want and it can be fun
for all, even for the insulted one. But you have to know where are the limits, not because of the one
you have just insulted but because of the general audience.
And I didn't cry over it to mortal because I was offended, I cried because gav posted disgusting post, and that
didn't got him banned. So I question myself will he ever get banned?
are you blind? -no, I'm deaf, can't you see? -no, I'm blind.
Nope . Banning is far too extreme in any circumstances, just completely out of question I'd say.
. Banning is far too extreme in any circumstances, just completely out of question I'd say.Yes it is inapropriate to post things like that on this type of forum.
You can mention those things but not here where a minor can read your post.
Nobody is denying those problems exist, but they are not to be discussed here where the minors and even children reads the forums.
For God sakes gav that post was inapropriate for wide audience.
This is family forum you have to keep that in mind. If you want to discuss those problems go post it on other forums where those problems are discussed not here, not on gamers forum.
are you blind? -no, I'm deaf, can't you see? -no, I'm blind.
You can mention those things but not here where a minor can read your post.
Nobody is denying those problems exist, but they are not to be discussed here where the minors and even children reads the forums.
For God sakes gav that post was inapropriate for wide audience.
This is family forum you have to keep that in mind. If you want to discuss those problems go post it on other forums where those problems are discussed not here, not on gamers forum.
are you blind? -no, I'm deaf, can't you see? -no, I'm blind.
and here was me thinking the off topic forum was exactly for those kinds of discussions...
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brnco Wrote:
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> Yes it is inapropriate to post things like that on
> this type of forum.
>
> You can mention those things but not here where a
> minor can read your post.
>
> Nobody is denying those problems exist, but they
> are not to be discussed here where the minors and
> even children reads the forums.
If a child turned on the 6 o'clock news these days he'd watch stories about paedophiles, war and things far more disturbing than Alice in Wonderland. 9/11 was broadcast live, and footage of the towers collapsing was shown on prime TV for weeks after. You can't wrap kids up in bubble wrap and protect them from everything giving the impression the world is a fantastically friendly place. It isn't, and giving that impression is a lie.
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> Yes it is inapropriate to post things like that on
> this type of forum.
>
> You can mention those things but not here where a
> minor can read your post.
>
> Nobody is denying those problems exist, but they
> are not to be discussed here where the minors and
> even children reads the forums.
If a child turned on the 6 o'clock news these days he'd watch stories about paedophiles, war and things far more disturbing than Alice in Wonderland. 9/11 was broadcast live, and footage of the towers collapsing was shown on prime TV for weeks after. You can't wrap kids up in bubble wrap and protect them from everything giving the impression the world is a fantastically friendly place. It isn't, and giving that impression is a lie.
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