Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO

Posted by LWC 
Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 22, 2010 12:54PM
Posted by: LWC
I found this program yesterday called cff explorer that allows you to edit any exe,you can assign any exe more than 2gb ram, this works great for older stuff ie gp4 that uses less than 1gb standard, ive tried it and instantly the po spikes i used to get have stopped, i would recommend giving this a go if you dont already know about it, ive tested this on gp4 and gtr2 and its made a significant increase in performance especially in windows 7 x64 ,please give it a try and post some feedback (Y)

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Open the main .exe file then use this setting, then select file/save and overwrite.



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2010 12:59PM by LWC.
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 22, 2010 05:38PM
Posted by: Fergy
I'm running windows 7 64bit so I thought I would test it out, I could see some difference in performance but the game is still only using 470Mb of Ram
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 22, 2010 05:55PM
Posted by: LWC
test the po, mine went from 150-200 spiking every few seconds to less than hundred dropping down as the cars spread, it may not work the same for everyone but worth a try at least

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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 10:08AM
Posted by: mclarenaustralia
CSM doesn't like you doing that.
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 10:13AM
Posted by: vesuvius
Thanks Lee, will try this out.
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 11:43AM
Posted by: Shaddix
mclarenaustralia Schreef:
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> CSM doesn't like you doing that.


there is no reason that it would work with no-csm-mods and not with csm-mods

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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 11:53AM
Posted by: harjinator
csm will detect it as a modified exe probably...

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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 11:54AM
Posted by: senna9194
harjinator Wrote:
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> csm will detect it as a modified exe probably...


yep,

bt it can be solved by adding it into the csm mod you want to use,and make csm swapping it with the original one;-)



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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 03:30PM
Posted by: ZaZ
throw this cap file in your patch folder of your mod for the same effect.





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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 03:48PM
Posted by: senna9194
ZaZ Wrote:
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> throw this cap file in your patch folder of your
> mod for the same effect.


didn't see any difference on my pc...

will try again when i'll install win 7;)



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2010 03:48PM by senna9194.
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 03:51PM
Posted by: ZaZ
It will only make a difference with mods with huge textures and high detailed meshes.





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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 03:56PM
Posted by: senna9194
ZaZ Wrote:
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> It will only make a difference with mods with huge
> textures and high detailed meshes.


i tested it with the mod i'm doing for Party-Boy's cars,so it contains very detailed shapes(around 1,5-2,0 mb),textures high(2048*2048),lod 0 option disabled,and original tyres\rims



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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 03:58PM
Posted by: Rot Teufel
ZaZ Wrote:
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> throw this cap file in your patch folder of your
> mod for the same effect.

cool, thanks
Anyway after editing and then put again original exe, i got less PO occupancy

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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 23, 2010 04:47PM
Posted by: LWC
senna9194 Wrote:
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> ZaZ Wrote:
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> > throw this cap file in your patch folder of
> your
> > mod for the same effect.
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> didn't see any difference on my pc...
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> will try again when i'll install win 7;)

well the title of the thread is windows 7 and PO, didnt bother to try it on xp coz it runs pretty much everything as it is

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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: June 24, 2010 11:37AM
Posted by: Fergy
@ZaZ,Wow, once I added the file you suggested it made a massive difference, 60 frames for the entire race on Windows 7 64bit I've never seen the game so smooth.

@LWC, after some testing I could not see much improvement, but it must be doing something allowing 2Gb?
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: July 23, 2010 09:26PM
Posted by: Koku
Hi Zaz, would the cap also work in a similar fashion for Vista 32bit? I have 4GB RAM, I'm just nervous about buggering up my installation of GP4 if I start messing about with the .exe ;)
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: July 24, 2010 12:53AM
Posted by: ZaZ
Not really because 32 bit can only effectively use 2 to 3 GB anyway. 4GB RAM in a 32 bit computer is quite useless as the total bandwidth allows a 32 bit system for 4 GB address space.
Windows itself needs that space too for other perposes and things like videomemory includes that as well.
So if you have a 1024 MB videocard, there's 1 GB less left to use for starters. Then various other things might take up another 512 mb, so your 4 GB RAM will result in 'only' 2.5 GB which you can use as 'real' RAM.
If a single process then takes up more than 2 GB, that means there's less then 512 MB left for the whole OS + other background processes/services and pagefile swapping will take place.
Harddisk access is way slower than memory access, so your system will start to stutter and becomes unresponsive.

In the most lucky situation you might have some benefit on a 32 bit system, but it could very well bite you in the bottom, too.
There's a reason why the setting is not standard on a 32 bits PE file.





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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: July 26, 2010 12:22AM
Posted by: Koku
Hi Zaz, thanks for the reply!

My 32bit lappy came supplied with 4GB RAM, despite not being able to use all of that lovely memory (good ol' Dell). I've been tempted to find a 64bit solution, just to increase the framerate or reduce PO for GP4 but I can't install Windows 7 64bit on this machine without a lot of problems (as Dell don't provide any drivers for this XPS model).

I guess the best idea would be to plug away with what I've got and wait until I have the need/cash to splash out on a 64bit machine.
Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: July 26, 2010 12:29AM
Posted by: ZaZ
I had the same problems with my Dell XPS. I was able to find all drivers though. You could try it.





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Re: Windows 7 & Gp4 Reduce PO
Date: July 26, 2010 12:34AM
Posted by: darrenj
Hi Zaz I have no PO issues at all on my 64 bit machine. ( yet)
Slightly off topic, if you can help me:

I am having crashes and non starts. CSM wants to or is waiting to turn of windows aero theme, alot of minimise maximise aero on aero off game crash..
Any ideas

I need to manually turn aero glass for the game to run with CSM.

It Runs perfectly directly from gp4.exe and from gpxpatch with aero theme on but crashes via CSM

Some people say its my windows setup

Win7 Ultimate 64bits

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