Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1

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Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: February 26, 2010 12:01AM
Posted by: jhun40
Pedro:

Love your work....outstanding ! Driving these cars is much more "tactile" than other mods.....

2 questions...

.....I notice the max top speed on the AI and human selected cars seems to be around 160 - 168 MPH for almost any track I select. Is is possible to modify team specific cars to increase the max top to reflect the true speed that these cars could travel at (i.e. close to 200 MPH) ?

Next....Can the crash envelope surrounding cars be modified to more closely resemble contact into other cars ? Seems like outer wheels can run into other vehicles without damage and / or movement....

Once again, thanks for your work...........
Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: February 26, 2010 05:40PM
Posted by: Kaps
As beautiful as they look, the cars really are too slow!

I tried all sorts of different set-ups, without much difference, the cars are just too slow.

What can be done about it?
The values in the performance files should be changed.



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Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: February 26, 2010 08:10PM
Posted by: jhun40
Yes....I took a look at the performance files and the horsepowers for all teams seem correct. There must be some other parameters to modify........
great work.







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Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 01, 2010 03:27PM
Posted by: Kaps
Nothing can be achieved thru modifying performance files, unless we make them very unrealisitic.

Anything else we might try? I myself am out of ideas...
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Kaps Wrote:
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> Nothing can be achieved thru modifying performance
> files, unless we make them very unrealisitic.
>
> Anything else we might try? I myself am out of
> ideas...

Have you tried editing the physics yet?



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Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 03, 2010 01:22AM
Posted by: Kaps
msater Wrote:
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> Kaps Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing can be achieved thru modifying
> performance
> > files, unless we make them very unrealisitic.
> >
> > Anything else we might try? I myself am out of
> > ideas...
>
> Have you tried editing the physics yet?


As a matter of fact I have, with disastrous results, I'm afraid.


Pedro, I just hope updated performances would make some difference.

And my 2 cents about your whole work: I think it's too good to be wasted on GP4. It should really be converted for F1C. That way you could have 26 cars in race and all the tracks, both feats sadly missing in GP4...just my thoughts, tho...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2010 01:28AM by Kaps.
msater Wrote:

>
> And my 2 cents about your whole work: I think it's
> too good to be wasted on GP4. It should really be
> converted for F1C. That way you could have 26 cars
> in race and all the tracks, both feats sadly
> missing in GP4...just my thoughts, tho...

I agree that GP4 has it's limitations, but I would take those limitations every time over the uninspired handling and gameplay of both F1c and rfactor. Both games for me have never fully reproduced the same driving experience, nor have AI behaviour as good as GP4.

But, each to their own I guess! :-)
Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 15, 2010 06:46PM
Posted by: Kaps
Speaking of AI behaviour, I can't even compare GP4 to F1C, (and I was A GP3/GP3-2000 user for years), but, as you nicely put it, each to their own!(Y)
Kaps, for Rfactor and easier to convert, but for F1C not have as much certainty whether the result will be satisfactory.
With respect to have more cars, I think Pedro will finish all the mod's that he intends to develop, oh yes get the development of cars that are missing.
They are only 22 cars, no problem, you can do as a mod in 1994 and 1995, where he chooses who it will be the 11th team.
Chasey agree with you, in terms of AI, the Gp4 is still way ahead of other simulators.


Kaps, para o Rfactor e mais fácil converter, mas para o F1C não tenho tanto a certeza se o resultado vai ser satisfatório.
Com relação a ter mais carros, creio que o Pedro vai terminar todos os mod´s que ele pretenda desenvolver, ai sim começa o desenvolvimentos dos carros que faltam.
São apenas 22 carros, sem problemas, pode-se fazer como no mod 1994 e 1995, onde se escolhe quem vai ser esta 11ª equipe.
Concordo com você Chasey, em termos de AI, o Gp4 ainda esta muito a frente dos outros simuladores.

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Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 15, 2010 07:42PM
Posted by: Kaps
Well, to see if the result would be satisfactory, you just have to try, haven't you?

Another thing, I've just tried this for the 1st time in "championship season" mode, and I see that the track-specific liveries are not loaded, i.e. cars look the same on all tracks. Is this supposed to happen?
No, that shouldn´t happen. Remember in the Mod's configurables to choose the GP that you want to drive.
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Ripping Corpse écrivait:
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> .... hello people, that's fine with you all !!!!!
> just to say that, I'm almost ready, a pack with
> some updates, have the Arrows A4 - Ford, wheels 3D
> by Ulf, performances, pitboxes, weather and much
> more .....(Y)


Wow Pedro ... you're THE man ! :-)
Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 15, 2010 08:39PM
Posted by: Kaps
DAMON96 Wrote:
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> No, that shouldn´t happen. Remember in the Mod's
> configurables to choose the GP that you want to
> drive.
If I drive the championship season (not the single race mode), I still have to choose in configurables the cars for every race?

@Pedro, like I said in the PM I have the rest of the missing Arrows liveries pics, do you need them, or have you got them yourself?

I reckon you're gonna use them?
Kaps Wrote:
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> DAMON96 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, that shouldn´t happen. Remember in the
> Mod's
> > configurables to choose the GP that you want to
> > drive.
> If I drive the championship season (not the
> single race mode), I still have to choose in
> configurables the cars for every race?
>
> @Pedro, like I said in the PM I have the rest of
> the missing Arrows liveries pics, do you need
> them, or have you got them yourself?
>
> I reckon you're gonna use them?


yes, I have, and thanks, i´m gonna use then, for Italy, Europe and Kyalami....(Y)
Kaps Wrote:
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> DAMON96 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, that shouldn´t happen. Remember in the
> Mod's
> > configurables to choose the GP that you want to
> > drive.
> If I drive the championship season (not the
> single race mode), I still have to choose in
> configurables the cars for every race?
>
> @Pedro, like I said in the PM I have the rest of
> the missing Arrows liveries pics, do you need
> them, or have you got them yourself?
>
> I reckon you're gonna use them?

You can choose 1 load track or all the 17 tracks load in profile (in the Mod´s configurables)...But I always choose just 1 track and then the other one, but I guess it should work in both ways (at least in the 1991 mod it does)
Re: Gp4 - SEASON OF 1982 (-> RELEASED <-) Link PAG. - 1
Date: March 15, 2010 09:34PM
Posted by: Kaps
Thanks damon, I'll try all the ways.

Pedro, what about Boutsen in Austria and both cars in Detroit, do you plan to do these?

Also, minor corrections are needed for French version (it's O.K CORRAL on sidepods) and Belgium version of Boutsen (I think I've sent you that one?)
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