fongu's thread

jimbob1 Wrote:
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> dkpioe Wrote:
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> > do you have permission of the creators of the
> > williams????
> > otherwise its leaching and you should remove
> the
> > link.
> > double standards abound in this forum, what if
> > someone made your super aguri for another game
> > without your permission?
> > And also did you pay for trd3 to get this? but
> > thats irrelevant, you need permission from the
> > author of the car, there are copyright issues,
> > which im sure if codemasters were informed that
> > you made this without permissions could get you
> in
> > trouble.
> > Please gp4 members, lets not have double
> > standards, some members get totally slagged off
> > for converting or modifying someones car, then
> we
> > have someone who converts a car without
> permission
> > from a commercial game and the same members who
> > slag off the other 'leechers' dont say anything
> > about releases like this. It creates a bad
> > atmosphere which make readers of other forums
> who
> > visit here think grandprixgames.org forum wants
> to
> > rule gp4.
>
>
> don't start this old crap here again...
>
> no one has any permission to edit anything in gp
> 4..
> thats a basic well known..
> we don't have permission to edit its
> cars/tracks/helmets/stands/garages etc.
>
> so we have a lot of work that is not with original
> manafactures permissions..
> ie..geoff crammond/simergy/infogrames/
>
> most car makers started with an original gp4 car &
> modified it..no permission..
>
> most track makers...myself incuded..started with a
> modified dat file..
> no permission...
>
> this is whats wrong with your statement..
>
> not one piece of work that started with gp4
> content has permission...
>
> i've used trd stuff in my track works...
>
> no permissions : but original authors content was
> always made clear.
>
> do you seriously think a big buisness." thats what
> it is " will consider giving permission to
> hobbyists to use their property ?
>
> if we & other communitys had this opinion....
>
> we would still be driving the original cars around
> the original tracks...
>
> gather up a list of names of anyone that has
> made/modified anything of original
> gp 4 content & contact geoff crammond....
>
> do the same for rfactor..gtr2..race 07..nkp....
>
> fongu has no permissions from
> codemasters...obvious..
>
> has he made a secret of the cars origon ? plain to
> see there.."96 Williams TRD3 Conversion Available"
> nope !
>
> while your own the moral high ground..
> .
> pop over to netkar pro forums...
>
> they have gp4 tracks in that game now ..but look
> at sites policy concerning
> conversions....doesn't apply to these gp4 tracks
> ?
>
> so...contact codemasters...inform them communites
> are using their works without
> permissions.......see what they say......
>
> don't forget to link to individual sites from
> various other sims as well...

actually, many gp4 track makers start building a track from scratch, and many carmakers make things from scratch. and true your not making money from it anyway, unlike the professionals at codemasters who built the williams, and the money they get for their work puts food on their table, all you do it for is a hobby. but then leachers also dont make money but get slagged for including a car in a mod, like at gp4spain.



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jcaranti Wrote:
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> Laguna Wrote:
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> > Incredible your anti-leecher paranoia.
>
> Its not only his paranio but also how he critizes
> the work of people that
> put so much time to make for us to enjoy.
>
> This is an example:
> [www.grandprixgames.org]
> 9009#msg-759009
> Their are many others examples to show.
>
> Fongu dont listen to this low life "dkpioe".

A little bit impersonal I think. Only moderators get to choose who is considered a lowlife on GPG. Nominations open tomorrow morning at 9am UK time. Please PM me your name if you wish to be considered for the official title of "GPG Lowlife 2008". We will announce our decision by Friday 22nd February 2008 5pm UK time. Until then no-one can insult anyone else as a lowlife OK? Thanks. Good.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2008 06:18PM by MarcLister.

actually, ive changed my mind now, Fongu, i apologise to you, it is just a game, and this isnt hurting anybody. Please reupload again, i realise i probably just upset people, but i hope i made a point: is it different to use copyrighted information from a commercial product as opposed to home brew products?(you can see to me it seems double standards). Please reupload for the gp4 community to enjoy the conversion. Im sorry fongu, and i think all the other things youve made by yourself for gp4 are great and i use them myself with my gp4 installation.
no hard feelings.
You too Jcaranti, no hard feelings.

awesome stuff

dkpioe Wrote:
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> You too Jcaranti, no hard feelings.

Just 2 things.
Dont critize people.
We want to enjoy of what the community offers.
If you do that then ill have no hard feelings but until then we have to see.

It is much important think before of speak, more still when we write.
Hard words in the ofedem, but with harmony we seek answer to our inquiries.
Moderation in the criticisms are well coming, union is very important, after all we are a community.

É muito importante pensar antes de falar, mais ainda quando escrevemos.
Palavras duras nos ofedem, mas com harmonia buscamos resposta a nossas indagações.
Moderação nas críticas são bem vindas, união é muito importante, afinal somos uma comunidade.

Es mucho importante piensa antes de habla, más todavía cuando escribimos.
Las palabras duras en el ofedem, pero con la armonía nosotros buscamos la respuesta a nuestras indagaciones.
Moderación en las críticas viene bien, la unión es muy importante, a fin de cuentas nosotros somos una comunidad.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

I've been away for the weekend, so haven't had a chance to say much, but so long as everyone's happy for now, heres the link again.


Williams FW18 (1996) Converted From TRD3 *Available*
Available here:
[rapidshare.com]

CAN THIS SKIN BE USED IN R FACTOR

JIMTHEJOC Wrote:
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> CAN THIS SKIN BE USED IN R FACTOR

No, because this is for Grand Prix 4.

Just to update this thread with mirrors of the cars recently released

Toyota TF107 by Fongu & Paolo Capriosa (& Oggo)
A generic early season version of the 2007 Toyota, shape by me, and textures by Paolo. Here's the link:
[rapidshare.com]


1996 Ferrari F310 by Ebi & Six Degrees (& Oggo & Fongu)
After a few years in WIP, this car was finally finished off and brought in game with NT textures. This is the first Ferrari that Schumacher drove, and to victory in Spain that year. 98% of the credit must go to Ebi & Nick for this beauty. Here's the links:
Early Season: [rapidshare.com]
Late Season: [rapidshare.com]

thanks again for your input on these projects!

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X (@ed24f1)

Great to see your doing well fongu mate

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I don't know if I've posted this before, but I did the SA07b test car, or rather the late season RA107 carshape, quickly from my SA07 shape. It was only a quick edit, but I'm fairly happy with the shape.

Is anyone willing to do an earth livery on the late season RA107 for me. All but shadings and the liverys are done. PM me if you are interested.








Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/2008 11:37AM by fongu.

Remember Fongu, that SA08 has an owner

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raulgullon.com -
Wedding and Motorsports Photography.

I do, but that car will be a complete re-make of this car. Anyways, you'll have something else to play with once I put a front wing on it, and map it

Good news!!

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raulgullon.com -
Wedding and Motorsports Photography.

You have a pm

Here's a pic of the last year's Honda with the Aguri rear wing bolted onto it. I plan a major re-work of the shape, but if people are interested in this being painted quickly (as most of it is mapped, bodylines and details are done) that can be arranged.








Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2008 12:51PM by fongu.

fongu Wrote:
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> You have a pm
>
> Here's a pic of the last year's Honda with the
> Aguri rear wing bolted onto it. I plan a major
> re-work of the shape, but if people are interested
> in this being painted quickly (as most of it is
> mapped, bodylines and details are done) that can
> be arranged.
>
> [img.photobucket.com]
> p.jpg


I think people want first that fast painted and after that the more accurate and detailed version :p looks good by the way

good work

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Very nice, looking forward of that :P

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2008 05:11PM by Spidey.