Birmingham
Posted by Flick Wang
There's actually quite lot of elevation change in Brum, though most of it subtle. The highest point is about 80m higher than the lowest.
P.S. If a Brum track IS made, make sure it is realistically bumpy! That's one thing which the GP2 version couldn't capture!
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P.S. If a Brum track IS made, make sure it is realistically bumpy! That's one thing which the GP2 version couldn't capture!
seeing as this is my first track ill try and make it good. seeing as i live 15 mins away from where the track was it shouldnt be to hard to see the elevation changes for myself. is it possible to change the elevation in 3Deditor after the track is complete because i want to complete the basic layout first
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Yes, you should do the layout at first and later adjust the hights manually.
Good luck
Good luck
ooh, i'd rather give rough elevation changes to start with. it'll make it easier later.
though most of it subtle. The highest point is about 80m higher than the lowest.
80m? can't be that subtle. brno has about 70m change and its almost straight up in the final sector
@prblanco - how did you know the scale was right?
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though most of it subtle. The highest point is about 80m higher than the lowest.
80m? can't be that subtle. brno has about 70m change and its almost straight up in the final sector
@prblanco - how did you know the scale was right?
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b-tone Wrote:
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> @prblanco - how did you know the scale was right?
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I used Google Earth's measure tool... I drew a straight line and saw how many meters it covered. Then I saved the image and saw how many pixels long the line was... with some easy calculations I found that at 200 m from the ground, 4096 pixels is nearly equal to 635 meters.
However, this is only right with tracks that are on low altitudes, because if the track is, say, 600 meters above the sea level, even if terrain is turned off you can't get the camera closer to 600 meters... so different measurements would need to be done.
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> @prblanco - how did you know the scale was right?
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I used Google Earth's measure tool... I drew a straight line and saw how many meters it covered. Then I saved the image and saw how many pixels long the line was... with some easy calculations I found that at 200 m from the ground, 4096 pixels is nearly equal to 635 meters.
However, this is only right with tracks that are on low altitudes, because if the track is, say, 600 meters above the sea level, even if terrain is turned off you can't get the camera closer to 600 meters... so different measurements would need to be done.
My unfinished tracks: [www.grandprixgames.org]
Send bug reports and track editing questions to f1virtualblog@gmail.com
Sorry! 635 are the coordinates of the horizontal surface... so it's actually half of its size... sorry 
Correcting: with terrain turned off, with eye altitude of 200 m, photos taken from Google Earth have the following proportions on 3DEditor:
photo 4096x4096 -- horizontal surface 1270x1270
photo 2048x2048 -- horizontal surface 635x635
and so on...
My unfinished tracks: [www.grandprixgames.org]
Send bug reports and track editing questions to f1virtualblog@gmail.com
Correcting: with terrain turned off, with eye altitude of 200 m, photos taken from Google Earth have the following proportions on 3DEditor:
photo 4096x4096 -- horizontal surface 1270x1270
photo 2048x2048 -- horizontal surface 635x635
and so on...
My unfinished tracks: [www.grandprixgames.org]
Send bug reports and track editing questions to f1virtualblog@gmail.com
ok, thanks alot.
i didnt realise googearth had these functions.
how accurate is your track in length?
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i didnt realise googearth had these functions.
how accurate is your track in length?
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Real Jerez: 4427.995 meters
My Jerez: 4430.776 meters
My track is 2.781 meters longer than real track... a difference of 0,06%... pretty accurate huh?
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My Jerez: 4430.776 meters
My track is 2.781 meters longer than real track... a difference of 0,06%... pretty accurate huh?
My unfinished tracks: [www.grandprixgames.org]
Send bug reports and track editing questions to f1virtualblog@gmail.com
well, i guess its acceptable :p
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80m? can't be that subtle. brno has about 70m change and its almost straight up in the final sector
The dual carriageways head uphill / downhill without much noticeable slope, until you actually measure it
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The dual carriageways head uphill / downhill without much noticeable slope, until you actually measure it
here is what ive done so far... ive never actually made a working track for gp4 so this could takes a while. so far ive just done what the basic shape of the track is, the start/finsih doesnt even line up, the angles on some corners are completely wrong and the pits is on the wrong side (using mavericks template =P) but i just want to show that ive started working on it. if anyone wants to help it would be great =)
**edit** sorry on second thoughts the shape is terrible =P i did it in 20 mins at 1 am in the morning, will give it a better try at the weekend
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2005 03:11AM by matt3454.
**edit** sorry on second thoughts the shape is terrible =P i did it in 20 mins at 1 am in the morning, will give it a better try at the weekend
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2005 03:11AM by matt3454.
good start.
have you got a map under neath to help with the layout?
and dont worry too much if you decide to throw it all away and start again - i've done that many times
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have you got a map under neath to help with the layout?
and dont worry too much if you decide to throw it all away and start again - i've done that many times
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Didn't know that the BSP (Birmingham Superprix) track would be made for GP4.
Contact me or post here if you want photos or even videos of the tracks.
I got about 670MB of racing action around the BSP (F3000, BTCC even TVRs!) and about 104MB of photos (from 1984-1990)
Look in here for photos I took in 2003 and 2004:
A pilgrimage to the Birmingham Superprix track
It is a good idea to look into the GP3 version of the track, it is because I was involved in the project and the track layout is very accurate although the height gradients is not quite accurate though.
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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?
Contact me or post here if you want photos or even videos of the tracks.
I got about 670MB of racing action around the BSP (F3000, BTCC even TVRs!) and about 104MB of photos (from 1984-1990)
Look in here for photos I took in 2003 and 2004:
A pilgrimage to the Birmingham Superprix track
It is a good idea to look into the GP3 version of the track, it is because I was involved in the project and the track layout is very accurate although the height gradients is not quite accurate though.
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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?
do you know where i could find the GP3 version of the track?. also the pics and videos would come in handy. Thanks =)
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matt3454 Wrote:
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> **edit** sorry on second thoughts the shape is
> terrible =P i did it in 20 mins at 1 am in the
> morning, will give it a better try at the weekend
But your cc-line is already good.
My Grand Prix 4 Files
I'm a total dick. How many people can say that?
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> **edit** sorry on second thoughts the shape is
> terrible =P i did it in 20 mins at 1 am in the
> morning, will give it a better try at the weekend
But your cc-line is already good.
matt3454 Wrote:
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do you know where i could find the GP3 version of
the track?. also the pics and videos would come in
handy. Thanks =)
Here are some screens of GP3 Birmingham but I don't know if you can have an idea of the track. If you still have GP3 I think it's better you download the 2 Birmingham versions which are here :
[grandprixgames.org]
Vous avez voulu Hollande et les socialistes, vous les avez !!! Au secours, la France est au plus mal !
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do you know where i could find the GP3 version of
the track?. also the pics and videos would come in
handy. Thanks =)
Here are some screens of GP3 Birmingham but I don't know if you can have an idea of the track. If you still have GP3 I think it's better you download the 2 Birmingham versions which are here :
[grandprixgames.org]
Vous avez voulu Hollande et les socialistes, vous les avez !!! Au secours, la France est au plus mal !
But it is a good track as it used up the .dat file to the max with a lot of graphical features to keep it accurate as possible.
Here are some photos to start you off.
Look at the long straights (Peter barwell Hill and Belgrave Middleway) leading and from the hairpin, they are not straight, they are slightly bent if you see what I mean.
Ask me if you want specific photos of certain corners.
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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?
Here are some photos to start you off.
Look at the long straights (Peter barwell Hill and Belgrave Middleway) leading and from the hairpin, they are not straight, they are slightly bent if you see what I mean.
Ask me if you want specific photos of certain corners.
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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?
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