GP4 Track Editing - new new thread

jimbob1 Wrote:
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> @Turbo lover. open the dat file in 3d ed 16 &
> make the bins & col in this..then save &
> re compress..theres no red barrier for me????

This is what i mean:



The pitlane has a left and right rail, the left is the one that is parallel to the pitlane. The right rail is highlighted in red, but where it comes from i don't know.

This is the link to the gp4 file where the problem occurred: [rapidshare.de]

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You need to change the bank description to match the rest of the pitlane I'd say

As said before, 16.4 as several bugs and sometimes very dangerous ones (as the one which is moving the .dat when you move a .gp4 object, so for the first time, I should advice you to rather keep the v16 to work on tracks instead of using 16.4. Next version is not far ahead hopefully.

Lo2k Wrote:
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> As said before, 16.4 as several bugs and sometimes
> very dangerous ones (as the one which is moving
> the .dat when you move a .gp4 object, so for the
> first time, I should advice you to rather keep the
> v16 to work on tracks instead of using 16.4. Next
> version is not far ahead hopefully.
>
>

Just about to say 16.4 was giving me trouble with error messages,..got to keep logging off computer to fix this....Trouble is this gp4 file won't open in 3d editor 16 for me....




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/23/2005 09:47PM by jimbob1.

I've got a fix for this turbo lover but 16.4 just won't do what i want it to do.. error after error message.....i'll give you a link in a min....

jimbob1 Wrote:
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> I've got a fix for this turbo lover but 16.4 just
> won't do what i want it to do.. error after error
> message.....i'll give you a link in a min....
>
>


Turbo lover i did a quick bodge on this & it opens in 3d editor 16 ok now..so use 3d editor 16 .. i just noticed something weird with the gp4 file. i used a standard gp4 file deleted all scenes & added two new ones...then imported track/pitlane...kerbs.....looks good.opens in 3d ed 16 now...click on dlbank & no highlite....click on dlverge & it highlites what was
dlbank???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i checked the unedited wad you sent & this is the same...the objects in the tree list are mixed up??????????? 16.4???????????????????????????????????


[rapidshare.de]








Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/23/2005 11:23PM by jimbob1.

dlbanks = dat left banks
I had to use short names as .3ds format as ZM do not handle long object names.
if dlverge are large enough, maybe dlbank is only a thin line below rails.

Lo2k Wrote:
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> dlbanks = dat left banks
> I had to use short names as .3ds format as ZM do
> not handle long object names.
> if dlverge are large enough, maybe dlbank is only
> a thin line below rails.
>
>

Yep you could be right laurent......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2005 09:34AM by jimbob1.

16.4 have several bugs? Is this you said Laurent? I didn't found those bugs. The only thing I think that is missing in 3DEditor is the pitlane code, as the car doesn't respect banking of pitlane. But I'm building two tracks as the same time, and everything is perfect. Sincerously, I don't know what to wait of the next versions. :D

Auradrummer Wrote:
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> 16.4 have several bugs? Is this you said Laurent?
> I didn't found those bugs. The only thing I think
> that is missing in 3DEditor is the pitlane code,
> as the car doesn't respect banking of pitlane. But
> I'm building two tracks as the same time, and
> everything is perfect. Sincerously, I don't know
> what to wait of the next versions. :D

The explanation for this pitcrew/pitlane problem is probably the same as for driving underground on tracks with high banking.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2005 11:52AM by patrickc.

You have the talent to make me curious!!!! :D

Auradrummer Wrote:
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> You have the talent to make me curious!!!! :D

3dEd banking code isn't exactly the same as gp4 banking code (yet). So when the .col and .bin are generated there are some differences in face coordinates, resulting that these files don't match the .dat file in those (high) banked sectors.

Lo2k Wrote:
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> dlbanks = dat left banks
> I had to use short names as .3ds format as ZM do
> not handle long object names.
> if dlverge are large enough, maybe dlbank is only
> a thin line below rails.
>
>

Yep, you're right Laurent, only the run-off area's by the turns of my track have a small dlbank.

Jimbob, or someone else, can you upload 3DEditor 16.0 for me?

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3dEd 16

[rapidshare.de]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2005 07:24PM by patrickc.

Thanks Patrick!

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i have a big problem, i have made the pitlane for my track but there is a big hill on the pitlane, like in this picture, does anyone have an idea why it is like this?






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2005 07:54PM by kimirgj.

jimbob1 Wrote:
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> Turbo lover i did a quick bodge on this & it
> opens in 3d editor 16 ok now..so use 3d editor 16
> .. i just noticed something weird with the gp4
> file. i used a standard gp4 file deleted all
> scenes & added two new ones...then imported
> track/pitlane...kerbs.....looks good.opens in 3d
> ed 16 now...click on dlbank & no
> highlite....click on dlverge & it highlites
> what was
> dlbank????????????????????????????????????????????
> ???????????????????????????
>
> i checked the unedited wad you sent & this is
> the same...the objects in the tree list are mixed
> up???????????
> 16.4???????????????????????????????????

Many thanks Jimbob for the files and now i also see that 16.4 was the cause for the problems.

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@kimirgj: It's just the heights, displace them until they are nearly straight and then tweak it withe the profiler

thanks zeppelin, it was the z-axis, the uphill was because i have the z position as above 0 and the downhill was due to the negative z positions. i jst changed them to 0 and its fine

Jimbob, thanks for the edited GP4 file, but still excists that crazy wall, you will not see it intermediately, but it is there. I think i know the cause for that problem. Both we are using Maverick's pits template, but the mine has two large bank sections at the end of the pits exit and yours has normal bank sections, let it show to you:


Mine:




Yours:




Is there a way to get it right and automatically get rid of that crazy wall? I've tried it yesterday but i messed it up completely.

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