I have a problem. (FIXED)

Posted by FangioGaming 
I have a problem. (FIXED)
Date: March 18, 2025 12:26AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
I first encountered Grand Prix 4 in 2024, playing it on a cardboard PC. That PC died, and now I have a new one.

Seeing that the Formula 1 race dates were approaching, I decided to get back into racing simulators and installed Grand Prix 4 on my new PC. Here's the problem. At the beginning of the race, the game feels like it's slowing down, and on top of that, it runs at very low FPS with everything maxed out, which I find ridiculous; it's a game from 2002! My components are:

- Processor: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with integrated graphics
- Integrated Radeon Vega 8 graphics
- 16GB of RAM
- Windows 11

And if you're wondering, yes, I open it with GPxPatch and set everything in f1graphics to my monitor resolution (Which also doesn't work), VSync enabled, 32-bit graphics and it still works terribly. And it's a pain in the ass, since it's the only game I've seen that has the HUDs for each year of Formula 1 in its mods without having to set them manually (like in Automovilista, rFactor, Assetto Corsa, etc.), in fact, the errors that rfDynHUD gives me were the reason why I decided to try to solve this performance problem with GP4, but I don't know what to do anymore. If you can help me with this, I'd be grateful.

Greetings from Argentina.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2025 05:12AM by FangioGaming.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 19, 2025 06:40PM
Posted by: n00binio
Do you play with mods? Due to its age GP4 will not adress your full RAM but only about 3 GB. Thers a patch to extend this to 4GB which can help with performance issues.



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Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 06:30AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
I don't have a single mod installed on GP4. I don't have a single mod installed on GP4. I had one from 2007, and the same thing happened.

What would that patch be that you mention?
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 03:06PM
Posted by: npnc
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 07:09PM
Posted by: JCaranti
Me parece que el windows 11 te esta ocupando demasiados recursos y peor porque tenes solo 16gb de ram y con una placa grafica integrada al procesador.

El parche para subir el limite de los gb de ram que el juego puede usar ayuda pero no es una mejora significativa, quizas lo vas a poder jugar al juego de forma original
pero en el momento que metas un mod vuela el % PO por las nubes.

Mi sugerencia comprate una RX580 que es placa grafica modesta y seria bastante balanceada para tu PC.
Si aceptas esta sugerencia fijate que la Fuente sea apropiada para soportar dicha placa. (Y)

Saludos.


2010 to 2021 Gp4 Track updates Jorge's Track updates blog
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 08:33PM
Posted by: FangioGaming
Thank you!
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 08:34PM
Posted by: FangioGaming
Hay fluidez de FPS, pero sigue habiendo cámara lenta en ocasiones. Es mas, lo he probado con mods y pasa lo mismo, no empeora la situación, pero prevalece.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2025 08:37PM by FangioGaming.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 21, 2025 11:12PM
Posted by: JCaranti
La camara lenta es cuando largas la carrera o cuando o hay muchos autos cerca tuyo y por eso se dispara el %PO
Encima con la Vega 8 estas limitado a 1000mhz de reloj con lo cual es medio poco.

El problema sigue siendo lo mismo: falta de gb ram y no tener una placa grafica dedicada.

Si es estas en Bs As anda a la galeria Florida, ahi esta lleno de casas de computacion economicas.(Y)


2010 to 2021 Gp4 Track updates Jorge's Track updates blog
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 02:13AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
Para decir la verdad, nun me quadra que el tuo especificación nun es suficiente. Debe ser un altra cosa. Hay tentado de abbassar todas las opciones gráficas al mas bajo posible y mirar si hace alguien mejoramiento? Donde día el PO (premes el tasto 'O' cuando juega), si es mas alto de 100% vale a dir que el juego es rallentando porque en gp4 la física es strettamente ligado con las fotogramas. Si no vale a dir que el problema es ligado a un otra cosa. Mi sistema antiguo fue un intel eceleron de 2006 y el juego funcionaron bastante bien con algún de las opciones gráficas abajado. Nun vedo ningún movida porque el tu sistema nun es bastante potente pero soy pronto de ser sbagliato

Un otra vía puede ser su linux, si por ningún altro movida que para diagnosticar si el problema puede ser con windows oppure altrove . para mi funciona bastante bien su linux con wine sin scheda de gráfica dedicada... pero soy consciente que para la mayoría de las gentes estas nun es un opción muy gustoso

Según me debe ser ligado a qualche cosa de compatibilidad, para mi la prima cosa de hacer es di premer el tasto 'O' cuando juegas para ver el cargo de la procesador
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 02:32AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
Soy mas mendocino que las tortitas jajajaja así que eso me quedaría lejitos.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 02:37AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
Okay! I'll check the PO % and let you know.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 02:45AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
I have a PO of 150 to 200% wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 02:58AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
Bien, ahora abajar todas las opciones gráficas al mas mínimo posible y mira si el PO es mejorado, y se si da cuanto (solo por diagnosticar)
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 08:35AM
Posted by: FangioGaming
I lowered the graphics to something reasonable, almost everything on low and off (Except for the textures, I don't want it to look that ugly) and it went from 150-200% PO to 130-140% PO, and when I'm racing (Without so many cars together) it goes from 70 to 90% PO.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 09:58AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
Something seems wrong then, there's no way it should be that slow with your system. I'd say something relating to compatibility is causing things to slow down. Have you tried to activate 2d sound in the sound calibration settings? The hardware accelerated sound can cause problems with performance.

Also check your performance monitor to see how much free resources your PC actually has while the Sim is running, double check your RAM and CPU usage before and during gp4 operation to verify.

Personally I would put everything back up to Max then tweak every option in f1graphics config file one by one and test them out to see if anything has an effect. After that I'd be looking at windows as a potential culprit. If you really want to rule out windows as a cause I'd recommend installing Linux on a USB, install WINE and then gp4 through WINE. It will require some patience but if you're determined to do it then it may be worthwhile. You can run a full Linux OS straight off a USB so it won't interfere with your main system
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 10:50AM
Posted by: JCaranti
GP2tifoso28 by your comments you do not consider my experience valid ... OVER 20 YEARS WITH GP4 !!
Whats worst you underestimate my knowledge of computer performance with GP4 !!.

What have you published for Gp4?? i published 85 Track updates alone and 13 new tracks with some associates.


The AMD ryzen 3 3200g is a AM4 with the worst CPU with a integraded graphics card.
Ryzen 3 are meant to be FOR OFFICE PCs !! NOT GAMING. Search the web ...
Also he has windows 11 witch i am sure he is making use of the IA witch is also consuming more CPU because he does not have a GPU
to make use of it !!!

He DOES NOT HAVE A PROPER VIDEO CARD
He clearly thought "its a old game, any newer PC will be enough" ... WRONG !!!


2010 to 2021 Gp4 Track updates Jorge's Track updates blog
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 10:43PM
Posted by: FangioGaming
Igual yo ya tenía pensado mejorar mucho mas esta PC, pero bueno, ta carito, en cuanto tenga la oportunidad lo haré.

Aunque como dije anteriormente, he probado otros simuladores como Automobilista o rFactor y me iban super bien, siendo que exigen mas requisitos que GP4 (Aunque por lo que vi que dijo uno en esta página, los requisitos que puso Infrogames para correr GP4 no eran los verdaderos)
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 22, 2025 10:53PM
Posted by: FangioGaming
It takes up 33% of RAM while running, the same with the CPU. I tried to enable 2D sound, but it won't let me. Every time I hit "recalibrate," it turns off, and when I hit "OK" and then go back to the sound settings, the box remains unchecked. I still have to see the f1graphics thing, since I saw that there are a lot of boxes to check in advanced options.
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 23, 2025 12:49AM
Posted by: GP2tifoso28
Try to allocate more CPU power to gp4 by adjusting its CPU affinity and priority settings in the Task Manager. GP4 physics are completely tied to the frame rate which means it can't drop frames, maybe windows isn't assigning enough CPU to gp4. Make sure to test with and without gpxpatch also, I doubt it makes a difference but you never know

Did gp4 run better on your old PC?
Re: I have a problem.
Date: March 23, 2025 01:53AM
Posted by: Juan72
I'll post in spanish because most people in this thread seems to speak it.

Me parece muy raro que te funcione mal el juego base. Yo tengo una laptop que tiene más de 7 años que como te podrás imaginar tiene menores especificaciones que tu PC, con una tarjeta grafica integrada y sin embargo no tengo ningún problema para correr el juego base, el PO nunca sube por encima del 60%. También puedo jugar con mods sin CSM y/o con lluvia.

@JCaranti Esas especificaciones deberían ser suficientes para jugar el juego sin mods, hay algo raro en su configuración del juego o el problema es el Windows 11 que consume demasiados recursos como tu dices, no tengo experiencia con ese SO pero ese mismo equipo debería correr tranquilamente el juego sin modificaciones, yo mismo tengo un equipo inferior con Windows 10 que funciona perfectamente.
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