F1 Manager Revised 2006 Season - We have a winner! Season complete

JohnWarrington Wrote:
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> miki2000milos Wrote:
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> > I don't see the point in test drivers atm.
>
> I'm the same in all honesty. Test drivers work if
> you want to promote drivers midseason or build up
> a certain driver. For example De La Rosa is a lot
> better than he was last season due to his practice
> results. However, they don't really serve a
> purpose. One way we could change that would be to
> somehow make test driver results impact the WCC.
> Maybe giving out points for the top 8 testers in a
> 2007 points system.

Lets pull together a driver list. Teams could be randomly assigned a second test driver free of charge or for little money. That way both test drivers can gain value and become something. They can sell them for more money if they`re good enough.

Morgiman Wrote:
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> JohnWarrington Wrote:
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> > miki2000milos Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > -----
> > > I don't see the point in test drivers atm.
> >
> > I'm the same in all honesty. Test drivers work
> if
> > you want to promote drivers midseason or build
> up
> > a certain driver. For example De La Rosa is a
> lot
> > better than he was last season due to his
> practice
> > results. However, they don't really serve a
> > purpose. One way we could change that would be
> to
> > somehow make test driver results impact the WCC.
>
> > Maybe giving out points for the top 8 testers in
> a
> > 2007 points system.
>
> Lets pull together a driver list. Teams could be
> randomly assigned a second test driver free of
> charge or for little money. That way both test
> drivers can gain value and become something. They
> can sell them for more money if they`re good
> enough.

We'll see what the other managers think RE: Test drivers

fandericciardo3
It's a great option to see Felipe at McLaren. With Heikki partnering alongside him, he might be delivering a great result to the team. Also Räikkönen and Vettel are a perfect line-up at Toyota.

After sleeping on it, I've decided to go with Morgiman's idea to keep test drivers relevant. Everyone will get a test driver free of charge. I've put the 11 best drivers into a randomiser in order to determine which teams they are in.

The top 8 test drivers will earn WCC points in the following format.

1st. 10 points
2nd. 8 points
3rd. 6 points
4th. 5 points
5th. 4 points
6th. 3 points
7th. 2 points
8th. 1 point

Free Practice sessions will also see the reintroduction of a 'setup reward' with the top 6 teams with the least gap between their drivers earning a reward. The top 3 teams get a 30 driver performance bonus and a 5 bhp boost for qualifying and the race whilst places 4th to 6th get 15 driver performance bonus and 3 bhp boost.

2nd Test Driver

As I said in my previous post, I've put the top 11 test drivers into a randomiser and here are the results.



This means that the completed driver lineups for 2007 are as follows:

2007 Lineups

Team 1: Renault
Team Manager: Miki2000milos
Driver 1: #1 Fernando Alonso
Driver 2: #2 Nico Rosberg
Test Driver 1: Giedo Van Der Gaarde
Test Driver 2: Romain Grosjean
Engine: BMW

Team 2: McLaren
Team Manager: Fandericciardo3
Driver 1: #3 Felipe Massa
Driver 2: #4 Heikki Kovalainen
Test Driver 1: Kamui Kobayashi
Test Driver 2: Vitantonio Liuzzi
Engine: Mercedes

Team 3: Ferrari
Team Manager: Jawz Interim: JohnWarrington
Driver 1: #5 Lewis Hamilton
Driver 2: #6 Michael Schumacher
Test Driver 1: Anthony Davidson
Test Driver 2: Nelson Piquet Jnr
Engine: Ferrari

Team 4: Toyota
Team Manager: Fandericciardo3
Driver 1: #7 Kimi Raikkonen
Driver 2: #8 Sebastian Vettel
Test Driver 1: Justin Wilson
Test Driver 2: Tiago Montiero
Engine: Ferrari

Team 5: Williams
Team Manager: Morgiman
Driver 1: #9 Adrian Sutil
Driver 2: #10 Nico Hulkenburg
Test Driver 1: Robert Kubica
Test Driver 2: Jarno Trulli
Engine: Ferrari

Team 6: Honda
Team Manager: JohnWarrington
Driver 1: #11 Jenson Button
Driver 2: #12 Mark Webber
Test Driver 1: Paul Di Resta
Test Driver 2: Sergio Perez
Engine: Ferrari

Team 7: Red Bull
Team Manager: MDBSnake
Driver 1: #14 Juan-Pablo Montoya
Driver 2: #15 Jos Verstappen
Test Driver 1: Robert Doornbos
Test Driver 2: Takuma Sato
Engine: Renault

Team 8: BMW Sauber
Team Manager: Bandon23
Driver 1: #16 Ralf Schumacher
Driver 2: #17 Nick Heidfeld
Test Driver 1: Pedro De La Rosa
Test Driver 2: Pastor Maldonado
Engine: BMW

Team 9: Spyker F1
Team Manager: Miki2000milos
Driver 1: #18 Giancarlo Fisichella
Driver 2: #19 Luca Badoer
Test Driver 1: Nicolas Kiesa
Test Driver 2: Timo Glock
Engine: BMW

Team 10: Toro Rosso
Team Manager: MDBSnake
Driver 1: #20 Rubens Barrichello
Driver 2: #21 David Coulthard
Test Driver 1: Sakon Yamamoto
Test Driver 2: Alex Wurz
Engine: Renault

Team 11: Super Aguri
Team Manager: Bandon23
Driver 1: #22 Scott Speed
Driver 2: #23 Vitaly Petrov
Test Driver 1: Frank Montagny
Test Driver 2: Jaime Alguersuari
Engine: Honda

damn, so close to getting Maldonado with Spyker :/

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That looks great. This new system is going to be absolutely faboulas.

BMW Sauber

It was a rather disappointing day with Ralf being out of the race after going wide at the Parabolica. Ruined his day which costs him a big time but the championship is still possible from there. Nick ends up in 13th so overall we're unhappy with the result. We're focusing on next race to come strong and surely we have a lot of work to do to improve and catch to the front to be battling for the title.

Most surprising thing is the randomiser shows that Pastor Maldonado joins BMW as 2nd test driver.

Super Aguri

Not the best race from us, Narain retires with the engine problem and that possibly isn't what we wanted to get. Speed finishes 17th and well still good result despite today's race troubles. We focus on next one but right now I think we're little bit unhappy with the situation how it's going.

Seeing the randomiser, looks like Alguersuari joins Super Aguri team to be a 2nd test driver.

BMW Sauber

Free Pratice went ok for us with Pedro 1st, after that we fairly seem to struggle with the pace in qualifying with Ralf 9th and Nick 12th. We'll give it the best what we can do and hopefully we'll be in a good position for the race.

Super Aguri

With our pace in FP it went down and seems like a difficult race ahead of us. Qualifying we avoid to be on the last row of the grid. Somehow we manage to avoid it and with some bit of luck maybe we'll finish strong.

Looks like the Bulls are slipping down the field .... let's hope to get something done in race terms!

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Honda
A third place for Felipe during free practice made us thought that it would be THAT qualifying position. Eventually it didn't happen, as Felipe got P5 in qualifying.

Toyota

We're looking very strong here this weekend. Hopefully we can convert it to a race win for one of the guys.

Ferrari

Not the best really. We can definitely do better

Next Season
Hello Everyone! I will be attempting to rename my account to my current name online (Divine). If It`s not possible, i`ll make another account.
I`m also having difficulty installing GP4 on my PC, so i`ve been using rFactor mostly (Still Good).
I will alert you when I`m unable to be online for a long duration of time.

The main purpose of this message is about what could be improved next season.

I have a list of things i`d like to discuss with you all. I`d like for us all to make a fair agreement to what happens with the series.

Realism
This is very important. Race length is no issue. I think car ability and certain teams excelling what they should makes the series unrealistic. For example: Super Aguri score 10 points in one race. That`d be unrealistic. Here`s what would look better: Super Aguri managed to scrape 2 points together this race. It`s important we follow the `2007` engine and ability rules. Is there anything that can be done to increase realism?

Race Calender
Just wanting to know which races will be hosted in the 2007 season.

Test Drivers
I`m wanting to see an early preview of the system to see if it works. It`d be good to see it work out and what could be done.

Future
2007 and 2008 are no issue. 2009 will be annoying as there is a duplicate vehicle on the mod. Let`s see what can be done to alter that. Maybe Super Aguri remains or Lotus come early?
2010+ Will be interesting as it limits the teams to 11 not 12. I`m thinking at that point we could switch to the 1995 season and set off from there or possibly migrate to rFactor? At the moment it`s not currently planned and i`m just trying to prepare us for the future.

My Questions
I`m wondering how the result table is made. What software did you create it with? Also I`d like to know what happens during the races.

Thank You for taking your time to read this, Divine (New Name).



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2016 04:34PM by Morgiman.

Morgiman Wrote:
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> Next Season
> Hello Everyone! I will be attempting to rename my
> account to my current name online (Divine). If
> It`s not possible, i`ll make another account.
> I`m also having difficulty installing GP4 on my
> PC, so i`ve been using rFactor mostly (Still
> Good).
> I will alert you when I`m unable to be online for
> a long duration of time.
>
> The main purpose of this message is about what
> could be improved next season.
>
> I have a list of things i`d like to discuss with
> you all. I`d like for us all to make a fair
> agreement to what happens with the series.
>
> Realism
> This is very important. Race length is no issue. I
> think car ability and certain teams excelling what
> they should makes the series unrealistic. For
> example: Super Aguri score 10 points in one race.
> That`d be unrealistic. Here`s what would look
> better: Super Aguri managed to scrape 2 points
> together this race. It`s important we follow the
> `2007` engine and ability rules. Is there anything
> that can be done to increase realism?

I disagree with this entirely. The whole point of this series is that the results are affected by the decisions of the manager. Mclaren shouldn't be fighting for race wins just because they are Mclaren

> Race Calender
> Just wanting to know which races will be hosted in
> the 2007 season.

It will be the same as the real life 2007 season unless there is a demand for change

> Test Drivers
> I`m wanting to see an early preview of the system
> to see if it works. It`d be good to see it work
> out and what could be done.

My current plan is to have a World Testers Championship along with test drivers earning WCC points. This still needs testing

> Future
> 2007 and 2008 are no issue. 2009 will be annoying
> as there is a duplicate vehicle on the mod. Let`s
> see what can be done to alter that. Maybe Super
> Aguri remains or Lotus come early?
> 2010+ Will be interesting as it limits the teams
> to 11 not 12. I`m thinking at that point we could
> switch to the 1995 season and set off from there
> or possibly migrate to rFactor? At the moment it`s
> not currently planned and i`m just trying to
> prepare us for the future.

I will leave that up to the manager in charge of that team. Either works fine. Going back in time serves no purpose, neither does going over to rfactor IMO

> My Questions
> I`m wondering how the result table is made. What
> software did you create it with? Also I`d like to
> know what happens during the races.

Microsoft Excel is used for results. I have a spreadsheet which includes tables and perf calculations

> Thank You for taking your time to read this,
> Divine (New Name).






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2016 05:20PM by JohnWarrington.

JohnWarrington Wrote:
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> Morgiman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Next Season
> > Hello Everyone! I will be attempting to rename
> my
> > account to my current name online (Divine). If
> > It`s not possible, i`ll make another account.
> > I`m also having difficulty installing GP4 on my
> > PC, so i`ve been using rFactor mostly (Still
> > Good).
> > I will alert you when I`m unable to be online
> for
> > a long duration of time.
> >
> > The main purpose of this message is about what
> > could be improved next season.
> >
> > I have a list of things i`d like to discuss
> with
> > you all. I`d like for us all to make a fair
> > agreement to what happens with the series.
> >
> > Realism
> > This is very important. Race length is no issue.
> I
> > think car ability and certain teams excelling
> what
> > they should makes the series unrealistic. For
> > example: Super Aguri score 10 points in one
> race.
> > That`d be unrealistic. Here`s what would look
> > better: Super Aguri managed to scrape 2 points
> > together this race. It`s important we follow
> the
> > `2007` engine and ability rules. Is there
> anything
> > that can be done to increase realism?
>
> I disagree with this entirely. The whole point of
> this series is that the results are affected by
> the decisions of the manager. Mclaren shouldn't
> be fighting for race wins just because they are
> Mclaren
>
> > Race Calender
> > Just wanting to know which races will be hosted
> in
> > the 2007 season.
>
> It will be the same as the real life 2007 season
> unless there is a demand for change
>
> > Test Drivers
> > I`m wanting to see an early preview of the
> system
> > to see if it works. It`d be good to see it work
> > out and what could be done.
>
> My current plan is to have a World Testers
> Championship along with test drivers earning WCC
> points. This still needs testing
>
> > Future
> > 2007 and 2008 are no issue. 2009 will be
> annoying
> > as there is a duplicate vehicle on the mod.
> Let`s
> > see what can be done to alter that. Maybe Super
> > Aguri remains or Lotus come early?
> > 2010+ Will be interesting as it limits the
> teams
> > to 11 not 12. I`m thinking at that point we
> could
> > switch to the 1995 season and set off from
> there
> > or possibly migrate to rFactor? At the moment
> it`s
> > not currently planned and i`m just trying to
> > prepare us for the future.
>
> I will leave that up to the manager in charge of
> that team. Either works fine. Going back in time
> serves no purpose, neither does going over to
> rfactor IMO
>
> > My Questions
> > I`m wondering how the result table is made.
> What
> > software did you create it with? Also I`d like
> to
> > know what happens during the races.
>
> Microsoft Excel is used for results. I have a
> spreadsheet which includes tables and perf
> calculations
>
> > Thank You for taking your time to read this,
> > Divine (New Name).

I'm using my other account which uses my current email. I'm going to use this account as my main now. Is it possible to rename my account?
Also I meant is it possible that the less the cars spend on the engine, the worse the results are? I meant if Super Aguri chose there 'real life' set up in 2007 or equivalent, I'd expect them to finish with minimal points. We need low budget teams to match the 2007 equivalent of their set up to make it match the 2007 season. E.g McLaren have a high budget this season and have spent lots of money developing the vehicle. It's like the 2007 McLaren. Do you see where I'm coming from? If Sauber lost all their budget and had to develop their car less. Their 2007 equivalent would be Toro Rosso or Spyker.

Morgiman12 Wrote:
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> JohnWarrington Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Morgiman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Next Season
> > > Hello Everyone! I will be attempting to
> rename
> > my
> > > account to my current name online (Divine).
> If
> > > It`s not possible, i`ll make another account.
>
> > > I`m also having difficulty installing GP4 on
> my
> > > PC, so i`ve been using rFactor mostly (Still
> > > Good).
> > > I will alert you when I`m unable to be online
> > for
> > > a long duration of time.
> > >
> > > The main purpose of this message is about
> what
> > > could be improved next season.
> > >
> > > I have a list of things i`d like to discuss
> > with
> > > you all. I`d like for us all to make a fair
> > > agreement to what happens with the series.
> > >
> > > Realism
> > > This is very important. Race length is no
> issue.
> > I
> > > think car ability and certain teams excelling
> > what
> > > they should makes the series unrealistic. For
> > > example: Super Aguri score 10 points in one
> > race.
> > > That`d be unrealistic. Here`s what would look
> > > better: Super Aguri managed to scrape 2
> points
> > > together this race. It`s important we follow
> > the
> > > `2007` engine and ability rules. Is there
> > anything
> > > that can be done to increase realism?
> >
> > I disagree with this entirely. The whole point
> of
> > this series is that the results are affected by
> > the decisions of the manager. Mclaren
> shouldn't
> > be fighting for race wins just because they are
> > Mclaren
> >
> > > Race Calender
> > > Just wanting to know which races will be
> hosted
> > in
> > > the 2007 season.
> >
> > It will be the same as the real life 2007
> season
> > unless there is a demand for change
> >
> > > Test Drivers
> > > I`m wanting to see an early preview of the
> > system
> > > to see if it works. It`d be good to see it
> work
> > > out and what could be done.
> >
> > My current plan is to have a World Testers
> > Championship along with test drivers earning
> WCC
> > points. This still needs testing
> >
> > > Future
> > > 2007 and 2008 are no issue. 2009 will be
> > annoying
> > > as there is a duplicate vehicle on the mod.
> > Let`s
> > > see what can be done to alter that. Maybe
> Super
> > > Aguri remains or Lotus come early?
> > > 2010+ Will be interesting as it limits the
> > teams
> > > to 11 not 12. I`m thinking at that point we
> > could
> > > switch to the 1995 season and set off from
> > there
> > > or possibly migrate to rFactor? At the moment
> > it`s
> > > not currently planned and i`m just trying to
> > > prepare us for the future.
> >
> > I will leave that up to the manager in charge
> of
> > that team. Either works fine. Going back in
> time
> > serves no purpose, neither does going over to
> > rfactor IMO
> >
> > > My Questions
> > > I`m wondering how the result table is made.
> > What
> > > software did you create it with? Also I`d
> like
> > to
> > > know what happens during the races.
> >
> > Microsoft Excel is used for results. I have a
> > spreadsheet which includes tables and perf
> > calculations
> >
> > > Thank You for taking your time to read this,
> > > Divine (New Name).
>
> I'm using my other account which uses my current
> email. I'm going to use this account as my main
> now. Is it possible to rename my account?
> Also I meant is it possible that the less the cars
> spend on the engine, the worse the results are? I
> meant if Super Aguri chose there 'real life' set
> up in 2007 or equivalent, I'd expect them to
> finish with minimal points. We need low budget
> teams to match the 2007 equivalent of their set up
> to make it match the 2007 season. E.g McLaren have
> a high budget this season and have spent lots of
> money developing the vehicle. It's like the 2007
> McLaren. Do you see where I'm coming from? If
> Sauber lost all their budget and had to develop
> their car less. Their 2007 equivalent would be
> Toro Rosso or Spyker.

Not necessarily no as it depends on driver skill too, hence why teams like Red Bull saw a big gap between their drivers this season. You're more likely to fail with a lesser engine tough obviously. If Super Aguri where to choose their IRL 07 setup then yes they would certainly struggle but that's not the point in the series. The point of the series is not to mirror the 2007 season, they'd be no point in having the series. The point of the series is that the decisions of the manager directly impacts on performance and therefore results/future seasons. Take Spyker for example. This season they've had Sato and Montiero and struggled for points. However, they've signed Fisichella who is a strong driver and I'd expect him to atleast challenge for a top 10 spot in the 07 season. In 2006, Mclaren chose a poorer engine and a poorer driver (Glock) and have therefore struggled more than if they had their real life pairing of Raikkonen and Montoya.

There's one thing I have to add to this performance thing.. I hope I'm wrong but the busgets the trams got at the end of this season are the same numbers we started with. Shouldn't the position in the constructors championship influence some changes here, which would cause more changes in the field rather than just Ferrari buying 2 top class drivers every time?

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miki2000milos Wrote:
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> There's one thing I have to add to this
> performance thing.. I hope I'm wrong but the
> busgets the trams got at the end of this season
> are the same numbers we started with. Shouldn't
> the position in the constructors championship
> influence some changes here, which would cause
> more changes in the field rather than just Ferrari
> buying 2 top class drivers every time?

The budget you got was based on the final standings of the 2006 season and what was remaining from your budget from before the season. I've had the 2006 season finished for months.

JohnWarrington Wrote:
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> miki2000milos Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There's one thing I have to add to this
> > performance thing.. I hope I'm wrong but the
> > busgets the trams got at the end of this season
> > are the same numbers we started with. Shouldn't
> > the position in the constructors championship
> > influence some changes here, which would cause
> > more changes in the field rather than just
> Ferrari
> > buying 2 top class drivers every time?
>
> The budget you got was based on the final
> standings of the 2006 season and what was
> remaining from your budget from before the season.
> I've had the 2006 season finished for months.

Well that's quite a spoiler then isn't it

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