League Concern

Posted by schifty 
League Concern
Date: November 20, 2013 11:56PM
Posted by: schifty
Hi all,

with both racing league who running here, i have a concern about how many team are or waiting list. I dont know but putting a rules after end of both to own only one team for both racing serie can be fair for someone who want to own a team. I saw some guys run two team on both league... may be give a chance for someone else to own it. I didnt ask it because i want to own one... just a remark i saw about looking how both league work
Re: League Concern
Date: November 21, 2013 12:19AM
Posted by: EricMoinet
If I'm correct there is nobody in the waiting list for the GPG Nation Cup at the moment. Just candidate into the GPG-NC thread and you should have a spot sooner or later.



Re: League Concern
Date: November 21, 2013 12:52AM
Posted by: Mullet345
For starters, GPGSL and GPG Nations cup have activity rules, where you need to be active to be able to stay in. GPGLS-3 doesn't have activity rules, but most of the people who take part do make posts in that thread. As for joining, which series would you want to be in?




Re: League Concern
Date: November 21, 2013 12:55AM
Posted by: schifty
For activity rules apply to the driver... a team have 4 driver, if two of their driver is not active, the team still in....
Re: League Concern
Date: November 21, 2013 12:43PM
Posted by: smoglessbutton4
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14) Activity
The spirit of the GPGSL is, that this series and thread is active and fun. Ideally not made out of "ghost" drivers or team owners. Therefore the following rules regarding activity were made. In the following rules, 'activity' is regarded as making a post. This can be done with a PR release, press conference, giving an interview or a simple comment. The sky is the limit, be creative.

a) General
Every fourteen days, the whole members list will be checked for activity. If a member of GPGSL has not been active for fourteen days or more, a warning will be issued. Both team bosses and drivers will be checked for inactivity. All warnings will be erased after the season ends.

b) Drivers
When a driver receives a warning, the team boss will be notified by the GPGSL. He will need to make sure his driver is active in the series, it is his responsibility.
Warnings have the following consequences:
- First warning: a 20 point perf penalty
- Second warning: a further 20 point perf penalty + demoted to tester if a racer for 2 races
- Third warning: forced retirement from the series for the remainder of the season. Members will be allowed to return the following season.

Forcing an inactive driver out of the series prevents the team owner from keeping on an inactive driver for perf purposes. If a driver receives a third warning, the driver leaves the series, whether he had a valid reason in retrospect or not. If the driver has a valid reason to be inactive, it’s up to the team boss to decide whether to let him back into the series in his old position or not.

c) Team bosses
ca)All team bosses are checked for activity. From the commencement of Season 7, team owners that are inactive will receive the following penalties.
- First inactive penalty: a 10 point constructors title reduction.
- Second inactive penalty: a further 15 point constructors title reduction.
- Third inactive penalty: Team forfeiture. The team will be passed intact to the number 1 race driver for management till the end of the season, whereupon it will then be passed to the first person on the team waiting list.
cb) In the event of the team boss being removed from the series, either by penalty or by any other means, the GPGSL will pass the team management to the first driver on that team for the remainder of the season. At the close of the season, the team slot will be allocated to the next person on the team waiting list.

d) Prior notices
A team boss or driver can give prior notices for inactivity, for example a holiday or a known loss of internet connections. In such a case a driver or team boss will not receive warnings. The notices have to be given by the team boss or driver himself, others cannot do that for him/her! Also absences need to be reasonable in time and reason!

e) Off season
In the off season, activity is not checked. We feel that in the off season, not much happens and therefore you shouldn't be forced to post. After the last race, activity checks cease. The first check of the new season will be one week after the first race.

f) Errors

fa) When a driver receives a warning, but has a valid reason that caused him not to be able to post in the thread, the warning and the perf deduction will be erased.

fb) When the GPGSL has given a driver a warning, but shouldn't have, the penalty will be erased and a boost will be added for next race.

Example: Driver A says in the thread that he will be on holiday for two weeks. For whatever reason, that hasn't been considered by the activity checker and Driver A gets a warning. Along with the warning, he receives a perf penalty of 20. He races one race with the penalty before the mistake is spotted. This has given this driver an unfair disadvantage. To make up for this, Driver A will have an additional 20 boost at the next race. Obviously, his warning will be erased.

Why does the driver get a 20 boost at fa) but not at fb)? At fa) it's the GPGSL fault for giving out a warning that shouldn't have been issued. At fb) it's the drivers fault. He should have mentioned that he was away. Of course, it is not always the drivers fault. Internet can break down. But we can't cover those things as well. We only cover those things that are specifically our fault.

Additional Amendment: Drivers and team owners should notify 'in-thread' (as well as by pm service to the GPGSL), notification of future inactivity during an activity check period.



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GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
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Re: League Concern
Date: November 21, 2013 01:31PM
Posted by: mortal
The differing leagues on the site all have their own set of rules regarding team ownership. All leagues are affiliated with the GPGSL, yet have their own management teams.
It is not in any of the leagues interest whether or not a team owner holds ownership of a team in another league on the site. This is entirely up to the individual if he/she wishes to participate in one or more leagues. Participation is the main purpose of any league, to encourage members of the community to take part, and to be part of a group with a common interest.
If any of the leagues were to consider ownership restrictions to one league only, there would be a revolt.
The popularity of the AI leagues on site are only due to the management, and the democratic way all participants are given a say on the rules and the event calendar. The off-season always sees lively debate on how and in which direction the GPGSL should proceed for the next season.
The GPGSL is aware of the waiting list for team owners. This fact shows just how popular the leagues are, so a testers series was introduced, to allow more participants, even though it has created more work for the GPGSL.
All members of this site are welcome to join any of the leagues, including the F1 Manager series, which is a separate entity to the GPGSL.
It is fair to say that there might be a wait, so usually rookies join the GPGSL as a test driver, graduate to a race seat if a vacancy occurs, and over time, perhaps team ownership.

Mal Stoddart, Southern Cross Racing team owner, founding member of the W300, WGP, and Grand Prix Games Super League board member.

League Credits: Daniel Pettit aka FlashFormula, W300 & WGP for the original formula that the leagues have built on. Tom Pellatt aka brunoboi WGP & W300. The existing board members of the GPGSL and its affiliated leagues, all Race Directors, contributors to the Wiki, and of course the participants, without them, we would have nothing.


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