England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*

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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 03:15AM
Posted by: Guimengo
I'd say pride :p
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 03:40AM
Posted by: Paco
yeah, it's not like any argentinian will ever support brazil!



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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 09:40AM
Posted by: gav
matthewp Wrote:
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> also makes Sven's squad selection look as stupid as I and
> many others were saying at the time; Why does he takes Jenas, Carrick
> and Hargreaves of which he'll probably only ever use one and then send
> Defoe home? Especially when he wont even play Walcott in a match where
> you're already through to the next round, now if he does ever get used
> it'll be in a knock out situation and the pressure will be much
> higher.

Agree 100%. I was chuffed he took a bit of a punt on Walcott, assuming he had seen something special in training - it showed he has some balls, but if he's not going to play him he's made a massive error. We've now got 3 'able' fit strikers, one semi-crocked with no match-fitness, one a 'Slim Tree' and the other still in nappies. As you say, it really highlights his selection issues.
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 10:33AM
Posted by: Locke Cole
I can't understand what it is about Sweden, btu England haven't beaten them since 1968. Again in this match, we were by far the better team overall but defending those corners was appalling. Never again will it be that bad, I doubt. Just against Sweden lol.

Fingers crossed for Owen! Crouch may have some skills, but he's no #1 striker.



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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 11:17AM
Posted by: matthewp
The other nations (Wales, Scotland and Norhtern Island will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be competitive so why not support the best team in the UK? AKA England.

You've pretty much explained why yourself with the arrogance of that statement.
The media also play a big part in it, you won the world cup 40 years ago but they still go on about it like it was last year, they'll dedicate about half of the analysis time for EVERY MATCH to England discussion. The hype about Rooney was totally rediculous and the commentary is incredibly biased, especially when Rooney gets the ball as Clive Tyldsley and Motson seem to think he is some sort of demi-god; he gets the ball 50 yards out and its ROONEY!
One funny example of this was when Gerrard scored the second goal against Trinidad, Tyldsley says "this is the England we know" What!? sorry but for my knowledge the England we know was the one we'd seen for the first 80 minutes of the match, you havent won a group in the last 4 major tournaments and the media still expect you to win the tournament every time!
Now I know the commentary is going to be biased, its largely English people talking to a largely English audience and I dont have a problem with that, it's the totally blind manner of it that you'd expect from someone on a football terrance not a professional commentator that annoys me.





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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 11:28AM
Posted by: LS.
I've always felt it to be an inbred dislike passed down from the partents tbh, never understood it quite honestly.

If Wales, Ireland, Scotland are playing internationals i always root for them because of the home shores connection.

I'd rather concetrate on my team than be negative about others.




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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 11:30AM
Posted by: matthewp
I've always felt it to be an inbred dislike passed down from the partents tbh, never understood it quite honestly.

If Wales, Ireland, Scotland are playing internationals i always root for them because of the home shores connection.

I'd rather concetrate on my team than be negative about others.


The big difference being you don't have to live with the forementioned media biased being rammed down you're throat :)

Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 11:49AM
Posted by: LS.
I thought Wales and Scotland & Ireland had their own TV stations for news and Sport etc?


We dont get any Scottish news or Welsh news unless its about the Rugby, and it doesnt interest me one iota, and it neither does it bother me.

If it comes on the TV then i switch channel, simple as that.


It doesnt build up to the point where it generates a dislike for another nation sports wise or other.




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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 12:03PM
Posted by: matthewp
We have BBC wales etc but theres only a small difference with certain programs changing and getting Welsh news as well as the normal BBC news, but other than that we get exactly the same coverage as you.

Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 01:26PM
Posted by: gav
To put it another way, it's the same way that ITV (and most of the English media) hype on Button all the time. We all hate him (well, most of the hardcore British F1 fans anyway) because of that. It's a similar story.

I can see Matt's perspective completely, and I'd be the same if I were from one of the lesser nations (;)). 90% of this world cup and the build-up has been about Rooney... and look what happens when he gets onto the pitch. He's done nothing. Oh shock horror.
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 01:53PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
Paco Wrote:
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> yeah, it's not like any argentinian will ever support brazil!
>
>
>
> Next step: Holland, on June 21st
> ¡Holanda, no rompas las pelotas, te falta mucho huevo, para ganar la
> copa!
That's cos brazil aren't better than argentina ;)

H E L L O
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 01:58PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
Coach Sven-Goran Eriksson said: "I'm sorry for him. But we have many players who can take that second striker role."

What, has he sneaked them in under the bottom of the england team bus, just for them to magically appear for the next game? ;)

H E L L O
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 03:02PM
Posted by: LS.
gav Wrote:
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> To put it another way, it's the same way that ITV (and most of the
> English media) hype on Button all the time. We all hate him (well,
> most of the hardcore British F1 fans anyway) because of that. It's a
> similar story.
>


Not really, do you honestly sit down on raceday with your biggest focus on seeing button fail?




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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 03:37PM
Posted by: matthewp
He probably would if it was a race of Button one on one against a single driver as it is in football.

Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 04:18PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Not really, do you honestly sit down on raceday with your biggest focus on seeing button fail?


Not my BIGGEST focus, but I'm not ashamed to admit that his misfortune always adds something to the race for me, listening to Honda and James Allen try to outdo each other with excuses as to why he's not World Champion yet :)



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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 04:42PM
Posted by: gav
LS. Wrote:
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> Not really, do you honestly sit down on raceday with your biggest
> focus on seeing button fail?

You should come into one of the MSN chats doing the race. Silverstone was a poor, poor race by any standard, but because Button failed to finish, it made up for it all ;)

Seriously, I like him a racing driver, and he's probably a good guy to know in person too, but the whole Publicity Jenson, what the media make of him, and the team he drives for, just makes me want him to fail.

You should hate him too after he publicly stated he didn't want to drive for Williams, and then sought ever possible means to get out of it ;-)
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 05:10PM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
At the sick bed of owen, we'll kneel and say a prayer, while the ghosts are rattling at the door and the devil's in the chair :(

H E L L O
Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 10:54PM
Posted by: Vader
Daniel Knott Wrote:
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> At the sick bed of owen, we'll kneel and say a prayer, while the
> ghosts are rattling at the door and the devil's in the chair
>

They'll take him to Cloughprior and shove him in the ground,
but he'll stick his head back out and shout "I'll have another round"






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Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 21, 2006 10:56PM
Posted by: tripleM
lol @ the last 2 posts


Re: England Vs Sweden *Spoilers*
Date: June 22, 2006 03:09AM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
Then a big piece of turf knocked him arse over tit, and when he awoke in his hospital bed, and saw what it had done, christ, he wished he was dead. Never knew there were worse things than dying.

And as his plane flew into newcastle quay, he looked at the place where his knee used to be, and thanked christ there was nobody waiting for him, to grieve, and to mourn, and to pity.

And the band played waltzing matilda, as they carried him down the gangway. But nobody cheered, they just stood and stared, then they turned their faces away.

And now every world cup, he sits on his porch, and watches the parade pass before him. He sees his old teamates, how proudly they march, reliving the dreams of past glories. He sees the old men, all twisted and torn, the forgotten heroes, of a forgotten tournament. And the young people ask "what are they marching for?" and he asks himself the same question.

H E L L O
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