Nascar discussion *Contains spoilers*
Posted by chet
Alot of good's in my post there!
Of the races ive watched got to say i think that track would be one of my favourites!
Also JPM was quite difficult to spot I thought with the blue. Very nice looking car but did not stand out as well as his red I thought.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Of the races ive watched got to say i think that track would be one of my favourites!
Also JPM was quite difficult to spot I thought with the blue. Very nice looking car but did not stand out as well as his red I thought.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Caught last 100 or so laps yesterday.
Good race again!
This is Montoya's second full season in Nascar isnt it? Already running well in the chase... surley things can only get better? He's got a good 10-15 years if he wants. Is it possible that next year he and his team will be in a similar posistion to what they are now in the chase and challenge for regular wins next year?? Can he be a multiple winner/champion?
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Good race again!
This is Montoya's second full season in Nascar isnt it? Already running well in the chase... surley things can only get better? He's got a good 10-15 years if he wants. Is it possible that next year he and his team will be in a similar posistion to what they are now in the chase and challenge for regular wins next year?? Can he be a multiple winner/champion?
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
against the Hendrick juggernaut?
not very likely
not very likely
If Johnson keeps winning the Chase, doesn't that kinda imply NASCAR's doing something wrong there, if one guy can dominate it?
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No, it isn't.
The "chase" basically renders the first 26 races null and void for the top 12 guys in the championship. It means the rest of the field doesn't have anything to fight for for the last 10 races (except prize money and media coverage), and some lucky beggars can get into the pot instead of somebody who has the pace and tenacity to challenge at the front on a regular basis for the glory. But it also means that if you set the car up to be dynamite in the last 10 races and you deliver the goods, you have the glory, and everybody else is left trailing.
Jenson won 6 of the first 7 races and had points scoring places in all but one of the remaining races. Consistency as well as some outright speed won that championship, but the fastest guy won the championship. Johnson has one great race in the chase against the others who are left floundering, and they struggle to close the gap, because there's not enough races to eat away at the lead he's built. Kyle Busch proved last year that you can win as many races as you like, but if you don't finish the damn races you won't be there at the end when it counts.
[en.wikipedia.org]
Not exactly an unbiased article, but explains it clearly.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
The "chase" basically renders the first 26 races null and void for the top 12 guys in the championship. It means the rest of the field doesn't have anything to fight for for the last 10 races (except prize money and media coverage), and some lucky beggars can get into the pot instead of somebody who has the pace and tenacity to challenge at the front on a regular basis for the glory. But it also means that if you set the car up to be dynamite in the last 10 races and you deliver the goods, you have the glory, and everybody else is left trailing.
Jenson won 6 of the first 7 races and had points scoring places in all but one of the remaining races. Consistency as well as some outright speed won that championship, but the fastest guy won the championship. Johnson has one great race in the chase against the others who are left floundering, and they struggle to close the gap, because there's not enough races to eat away at the lead he's built. Kyle Busch proved last year that you can win as many races as you like, but if you don't finish the damn races you won't be there at the end when it counts.
[en.wikipedia.org]
Not exactly an unbiased article, but explains it clearly.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
It's wrong for one team to dominate all proceedings like Hendrick seem to be doing. Reminiscent of Ferrari earlier this decade. The difference between NASCAR and FIA in that respect is FIA changed things to shake up the order, NASCAR doesn't.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> How is it "wrong"? The best team is winning. What
> is wrong about that? The FIA didn't change
> ANYTHING to shake up the order.
So the FIA points system went from 6 cars in points to 8 cars and 10-6-4 went to 10-8-6. This after Ferrari ran away with both championships in 2001 and 2002, 2001 with 4 races to go, winning in 2002 6 races from the end. 2005 they made tyres last a race which benefitted Michelin and hindered Bridgestone for all bar 4 races because the Ferrari-Bridgestone combo was tailored to short fast runs as demonstrated at France 2004.
> I don't like Jimmie Johnson, but if you want
> artificially close racing with the good cars
> getting penalised
NASCAR are doing that themselves, with the competition cautions that are ten-a-penny these days and magic penalties like Montoya got at Indy. Green-white-chequered has merits but means one chance or you're fecked.
> then go watch BTCC or some other
> generic touring car series.
Are you actually comparing NASCAR to BTCC? They're completely different series entirely.
> NASCAR is being dominated by Johnson (not Hendrick) because he and
> the 48 crew are by far the best combination that
> the series has seen for a long time. To somehow
> suggest that NASCAR is at fault for Jimmie being
> good is ridiculous.
Hendrick has ties through many NASCAR teams, privateer and works. They have the best engines, best support, more money than any other team, and the best drivers. They're dominating like Penske did in the 90s - because they're being allowed to. NASCAR has to decide whether it's right for the fans or not.
> I can't believe someone actually suggested that.
Believe it. I may spout s**t some days, but I couldn't resist this carrot.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
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> How is it "wrong"? The best team is winning. What
> is wrong about that? The FIA didn't change
> ANYTHING to shake up the order.
So the FIA points system went from 6 cars in points to 8 cars and 10-6-4 went to 10-8-6. This after Ferrari ran away with both championships in 2001 and 2002, 2001 with 4 races to go, winning in 2002 6 races from the end. 2005 they made tyres last a race which benefitted Michelin and hindered Bridgestone for all bar 4 races because the Ferrari-Bridgestone combo was tailored to short fast runs as demonstrated at France 2004.
> I don't like Jimmie Johnson, but if you want
> artificially close racing with the good cars
> getting penalised
NASCAR are doing that themselves, with the competition cautions that are ten-a-penny these days and magic penalties like Montoya got at Indy. Green-white-chequered has merits but means one chance or you're fecked.
> then go watch BTCC or some other
> generic touring car series.
Are you actually comparing NASCAR to BTCC? They're completely different series entirely.
> NASCAR is being dominated by Johnson (not Hendrick) because he and
> the 48 crew are by far the best combination that
> the series has seen for a long time. To somehow
> suggest that NASCAR is at fault for Jimmie being
> good is ridiculous.
Hendrick has ties through many NASCAR teams, privateer and works. They have the best engines, best support, more money than any other team, and the best drivers. They're dominating like Penske did in the 90s - because they're being allowed to. NASCAR has to decide whether it's right for the fans or not.
> I can't believe someone actually suggested that.
Believe it. I may spout s**t some days, but I couldn't resist this carrot.
Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld
GPGSL S5 Race driver for IED.
Just saw on Atlas the NASCAR thread, and this weekend being Talladega. Had a quick read of the circuit and stuff to try learn myself. Looks like a cracker!
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
It would seem that AJ Allmendinger has been caught drink driving...
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OMG, that's sexy.
is that for real? i thought all the detailing on the front of the cars were stickers?
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