1980 F1 top speeds

Posted by Kaps 
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 01:14AM
Posted by: R_Scandura
hi
yup it's the tigher/wider value wich makes the cars anticipate the braking forcing to stay on the ccline.

Jacki if you are interested I made a new ccline in the Funidora Park for my personal use. If you need it I can pass it to you...

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Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 01:56AM
Posted by: JackiMatra
I'd love to have it.
My e-mail address is wj.bohdani@verizon.net .

Fundidora Park is the only GP3 track from the CART 2001 through 2005 seasons with CC-line problems. Other GP3 CART fans would very probably like to have a version of this circuit with an improved CC-line as well.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 02:03AM
Posted by: JackiMatra
@ b-tone

I just dug up the CD with my old tentative F1-1977 physics and had a look at them.
I remember that I gave up working on my F1-1977 physics and performance because there were so many tracks from that season with such serious CC-line problems that it made trying to use the tracks to set realistic physics and perfomances really pretty much practically impossible, and my physics file looks so poor to me that I hope that you will forgive me if I demur from making it public.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 08:32AM
Posted by: b-tone
R_Scandura Wrote:
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> hi
> yup it's the tigher/wider value wich makes the
> cars anticipate the braking forcing to stay on the
> ccline.
>

what value do you mean by tighter/wider?
my thought is that shorter cc line segments affect the braking/acelerating some how, but i havent got round to testing it yet.
the good thing is that cc lines are (reasionably) easy to edit.
i' working on some 2005 dtm tracks for gp4 and will probably try some experimenting with it.

@Jacki - no problems. i'll try out your 1985 data when i get the chance.
btw, your backgrounds are great, and a great source!
i dont suppose you keep data on which tracks the images were from?

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Tony

Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 08:55AM
Posted by: wvdriel
Hey boys,

If somebody has a good physics-file for the 1980 season could you please mail it to wvdriel@xs4all.nl. Just worked the nightshift and going to sleep now. So thanks in advance.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 09:52AM
Posted by: JackiMatra
"i dont suppose you keep data on which tracks the images were from?"

I often have that information, but not for most photographs, I'd say.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 05:12PM
Posted by: R_Scandura
@ Jacki
check your mailbox :)
If I remember, using the same magicdata+perf. the laptime decresed by almost 3 secs with the new ccline. In the file I sent, you have to change the magicdata as it's not the original one.

@b-tone
check the ccline tutorial for pics and info about it. Since I used this value the AI seems has made miracles... I dunno about short ccline sectors, I never have good feedback by using the short sectors.



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Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 11:29PM
Posted by: JackiMatra
There is nothing in my mailbox, Roberto.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 16, 2005 11:47PM
Posted by: R_Scandura
hmm that's strange...
send me a mail and I'll reply with the file

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2005 05:38PM by R_Scandura.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 01:27AM
Posted by: JackiMatra
I've got it now.

Nice job, not only is the problem with the one turn where the AI constantly
ran off the track fixed, but the CC-line is much better overall, and the AI
no longer clip any corners.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 12:40PM
Posted by: b-tone
@Roberto - i'm still not following about the 'tigher/wider value wich makes the cars anticipate the braking forcing to stay on the ccline'
do you have a link to the cc tutorial? i guess its for gp3, but should still be relevant for gp4.

____
Tony

Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 02:02PM
Posted by: drafi5
@JackiMatra:
where can I download Funidora Park ? Thanks in advance.

Happy racing from Germany !!!
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 03:23PM
Posted by: JackiMatra
The Fundidora Park track for GP3 should be on this website.
(It might be called "Monterrey".)
I think that the author was probably Hernan Viglione.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 04:13PM
Posted by: drafi5
Thank you very much, Jacki.

Happy racing from Germany !!!
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 05:45PM
Posted by: R_Scandura
I tried to get the track from the site but the link seemed dead to me. The same for all the Hernan's tracks and a big amount of stuff... :( Is it me who have this problem?

@ Jacki
good to see it worked.

@ b-tone
enter the site in my signature for the tutorial. It's more easy if you see with your eyes.
If you open the dialog box of the ccline sectors you can see a cell in the right called tighter/wider. Adding a value there, the cars seem to anticipate the braking in the tight turns. 256= 1 unit. Most used values are around 100.
I dunno about Gp4 facts...

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Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 17, 2005 11:25PM
Posted by: JackiMatra
The download of the Fundidora Park track on this website worked for me a minute ago.
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: November 22, 2005 05:44PM
Posted by: Kaps
I've just got the mail from a man from Hockenheim's official site, saying that the top speed reached during the 1980 Grand Prix was 291 kph.

We were not wide off the mark, were we?
Re: 1980 F1 top speeds
Date: February 27, 2014 06:06PM
Posted by: SENNA0811
I'm looking for top speeds of each track for seasons 1995 to 2003 ... :-)
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