Increase Gear Amount

Posted by pebrinaldy 
Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 04, 2016 06:17AM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
Hi Everyone

i want to ask about how to increase gear amount.when i race in Melbourne using Force India,i see my highest gear only reach 6 and Mercedes Petronas have gear up to 7.
anyone knows how to change it in to 7 or 8?

Thanks

REGARDS
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 04, 2016 10:39AM
Posted by: klausfeldmann
I'm not sure, but I think the 7-gears-limit is hard-coded. So, probably we won't see 8 gears for GP4 soon. But in my opinion it does make no difference in the game-play anyway, so it's not really necessary.
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 04, 2016 11:56AM
Posted by: miki2000milos
pebrinaldy Wrote:
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> Hi Everyone
>
> i want to ask about how to increase gear
> amount.when i race in Melbourne using Force
> India,i see my highest gear only reach 6 and
> Mercedes Petronas have gear up to 7.
> anyone knows how to change it in to 7 or 8?
>
> Thanks
>
> REGARDS


For AI: Go to the folder where you installed your mod and look for Data/Performance and in the .txt files, near the bottom of them, edit the gears to 7 for your prefered team. This is really mod dependant, usually they are round-specific, there is usually a generic one too, so see which ones you need to edit.

For player: In-game, click on the "Driver" at the top, and it will lead you to a list of drivers. Then click the screw-thing on the left of your driver, and it will open his setup. In gear ratios select "activiate 7th gear" and press ok. (note: when you change track, you will need to repeat, but if you are loading the same track over and over the game will remember your setup)

8 gears is not possible yet afaik




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Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 04, 2016 04:04PM
Posted by: Atticus.
miki2000milos Wrote:
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> yet


I love your optimism. :-)



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Full of classic F1/non-F1 track layouts

My blog about F1 performance analysis - [thef1formbook.wordpress.com]
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 04, 2016 04:41PM
Posted by: EricMoinet
We have seen some unbreakable limits broken yet, thanks to our fellow modders, so he is not so unrealistically optimist.
Well, I hope so ;)



Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 04:19AM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
its not saving guys.when i click ''activate 7th gears'',i click ok.but,after that i try to play Quickrace in Montreal,my car still in 6th gears.not change.even i save my setting (drivers.csg) and i load it.still can't.:(
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 04:23AM
Posted by: gap177
@pebrinaldy

Does your performance file have 7 gears selected? See below.

[Gears]
Team #00=7
Team #01=7
Team #02=7
Team #03=7
Team #04=7
Team #05=7
Team #06=7
Team #07=7
Team #08=7
Team #09=7
Team #10=7

Glenn (Cdn)
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 06:16AM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
@gap177



like that..what i've supposed to do?
i have try open the perf.file in Teamed.i change in team tab and become all have 7th gears.but still can't in game :(



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2016 06:16AM by pebrinaldy.
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 01:49PM
Posted by: miki2000milos
pebrinaldy Wrote:
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> its not saving guys.when i click ''activate 7th
> gears'',i click ok.but,after that i try to play
> Quickrace in Montreal,my car still in 6th
> gears.not change.even i save my setting
> (drivers.csg) and i load it.still can't.:(

When about to load your quick race, go to "Last Minute Changes" and then click on "Car Setup", and see if the "Activate 7th Gear" is checked




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Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 05:38PM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
@Miki2000milos

wow awesome.ty miki. (y)
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 05:53PM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
hii guys..

btw i wanna ask about cars speed limit.

i try race in montreal yesterday,and my car only reach 320 kph(around 200 mph).coz still long gap between gp4 cars and F1 cars who reach 367 kph in BakuGP a few weeks ago.there i wanna ask,how to increase cars speed in this game.so that i can compare my cars speed with F1 cars this season. Tyvm ..:)


Sorry My Bad English

Regards
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 05, 2016 05:56PM
Posted by: gap177
You can edit the performance file and magicdata to adjust speed etc.

Glenn (Cdn)
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 06, 2016 12:12AM
Posted by: miki2000milos
pebrinaldy Wrote:
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> hii guys..
>
> btw i wanna ask about cars speed limit.
>
> i try race in montreal yesterday,and my car only
> reach 320 kph(around 200 mph).coz still long gap
> between gp4 cars and F1 cars who reach 367 kph in
> BakuGP a few weeks ago.there i wanna ask,how to
> increase cars speed in this game.so that i can
> compare my cars speed with F1 cars this season.
> Tyvm ..:)
>
>
> Sorry My Bad English
>
> Regards

Firstly, I will note that the straight in Montreal is considerably shorter than the one in Baku, so it makes sense that cars hit less speed :-) However, you can increase the speed still.

A couple of ways to do this, I'll go from easiest to hardest, but they are all pretty easy apart from the final one:
1) In the same setup menu where you activated 7th gear, extend all of the gears (make sure to not make the gaps between gears more than 7-8, 9 at worst) - note that this will impact acceleration, don't use it at tracks like Monaco;
2) In the car setup menu, click on "Wing Adjustments" to lower both the front and rear wing, and I'd suggest leaving them equal or with the front wing 1-2 ticks higher, no more. - note that this will impact cornering, don't use at tracks like Monaco, again

The other options will require some tools

3) Easiest option without hampering cornering or acceleration (well, you will increase acceleration, since you increase raw engine power):
If you have GPxPatch v4.4 or higher (assuming that you have it in the first place - if you don't, get it! It's a great tool!), at the bottom of your performance file type this:

[QualifyPower]
Team #z=x1,y1

[RacePower]
Team #z=x2,y2

I'll also show an example of a single team in the performance file, as I will come back to this:
[Team #00]
Name=Williams,Mecachrome
Performance=726,726,4000
First Driver=1,Jacques Villeneuve,15500,100,15500,100
Second Driver=2,Heinz-Harald Frentzen,15200,100,15200,100

Replace the letters as following
z=the Team number of the team you're driving for (it is at the top in my example)
Now, in the same example let's look at the performance line. It contains left to right: race BHP, qualifying BHP, Failure Rate
now, if you are driving as the first driver of the team, put the Qualifying BHP value under y1 and the Race BHP value under y2. Increase the x1 and x2 values (preferably by same amount) compared to the y1 and y2 values respectively. This way, you get the faster car, AI doesn't. You can fiddle around with the setings to give the AI a faster car too if you want, you can list multiple teams under the QualifyingPower and RacePower sections, or you can just edit the values directly in the Performance line for both drivers.

4) You will need both ZaZ Tools and GPxPatch for this option. Also note that this option will only work for tracks you installed through TSM.
Open TSM (in the ZaZ package) and find your track, and click on it


(by clicking on the top margin you can sort by name, season.. etc., see 1 in my picture). Then in the menu on the left click on "Manage Tracks" (number 2 in my picture)
Then you will see this tab appear

(note that the data below the tab should be filled up - I just didn't click on any track for this presentation)
Anyway, click on the Magic Data tab, edit the Power for your difficulty and click on save, and close TSM.

Now, when you start GPxPatch

Under "GPxSet", make sure to tick the Player Car Performance Team Dependant box, and set it to Power Only, or, if you have GPxPatch v4.4 or above, you may also select "Power and Grip", like I did. Then start GPx.

Hope this helped!




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Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 06, 2016 11:55AM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
upss..miki.

i have problem with my pc.it cannot open gp4 stuff or tools like ZAZ,wadupdater,gp4builder,tweaker,etc...:(

i can only open Team Editor.only teameditor.
maybe u have another tps to increase car speed through Team Editor.:)
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 06, 2016 12:21PM
Posted by: miki2000milos
uhh, you can increase BHP in the performance line of your team, then lower the grip values of the other AI driver so he doesn't end up too fast

Could also just increase BHP of all cars if you want the AI to also hit such high speeds




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Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 06, 2016 05:12PM
Posted by: TGF1DRIVER
8 gears are possible, look at that: [www.youtube.com] :-O(Y)
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 06, 2016 07:54PM
Posted by: klausfeldmann
TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
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> 8 gears are possible, look at that:
> [www.youtube.com] :-O(Y)


They're not! Just count the gears!

Sorry, but some guys in this forum are a sucker for everything they see, hear or think ;-).
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 07, 2016 01:43AM
Posted by: miki2000milos
indeed TG, that's the furthest we've gone to 8 gears in GP4. Textures ;)

(also - GP4 2014 in a 2013 Ferrari, legit)




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Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 07, 2016 03:58AM
Posted by: pebrinaldy
@miki

how much BHP limit I can use to increase the speed ?
Re: Increase Gear Amount
Date: July 07, 2016 11:24PM
Posted by: Garden
klausfeldmann Wrote:
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> TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8 gears are possible, look at that:
> > [www.youtube.com]
> :-O(Y)
>
>
> They're not! Just count the gears!
>
> Sorry, but some guys in this forum are a sucker
> for everything they see, hear or think ;-).

Ha that is clever! So I guess 8th is actually 7th gear, 7th is actually 6th, 6th is actually 5th and so on.
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