Team specific steering wheels

Posted by GP_maniac 
Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 29, 2014 09:43PM
Posted by: GP_maniac
Does anyone know if it is possible to enable specific steering wheels per team, so each team will have their own.

I am enquiring this for a MOD not just installing into the game.
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 29, 2014 09:59PM
Posted by: Ferrari2007
No, it isn't possible.

A limitation of the original game.



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Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 29, 2014 10:35PM
Posted by: GP_maniac
Has anyone ever tried
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 29, 2014 11:06PM
Posted by: mortal
Of course they have, that's why it's a known fact that it's not possible. Until we get our hands on the source code, which is never going to happen.


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Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 12:03AM
Posted by: Briere
3D helmet/wheel combo makes it sort of possible. rracunis is your man nowadays. Let's not forget that the idea was in the gp4.gamers.nl 2004 mod too :)
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 12:05AM
Posted by: GP_maniac
how would the 3D helmet/wheel combo work?

Sounds interesting
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 12:08AM
Posted by: Excalibur
True story... :-)

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Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 12:10AM
Posted by: GP_maniac
Do we know if anyone is working on this or how it could be started
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 01:09AM
Posted by: Briere
GP_maniac Wrote:
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> how would the 3D helmet/wheel combo work?
>
> Sounds interesting

Quick example (please don't comment driving, I was on keyboard back then ;) )


Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: May 30, 2014 04:26AM
Posted by: vesuvius
Madman was working on the tweak to have team specifig steering wheels and he had made it work...sadly he left returned,left,returned and left again :( so no gp4tweaker has been released in years.
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 02:21PM
Posted by: somogyi23
a long time ago i played with a russian 2006 f1 mod. Somehow there was different external steering wheels in this mod.
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 04:05PM
Posted by: TGF1DRIVER
So we wait for Madman's returning and then we will ask him for the tweak. :-)
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 05:01PM
Posted by: rracunis
Yeah I have a CSM MOD with only the EXTERNAL steering wheels specific for each team and driver , in 2013 all were updated , this year I have tried to keep helmets updated but few steering wheels and gloves are updated . The tweaks , however , are updated to the 2014 cars .
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 06:42PM
Posted by: TGF1DRIVER
When it's possible to have different steering wheels for each team, why shouldn't it be possible that every team has different types of tyres? Is there any tweak avaible for that? :-)
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 07:48PM
Posted by: klausfeldmann
TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
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> When it's possible to have different steering
> wheels for each team, why shouldn't it be possible
> that every team has different types of tyres? Is
> there any tweak avaible for that? :-)

Graphics and game behaviour are two dead seriously different things. With a tweak it could be possible to have more than 2 types of tyres in the graphic apperance, but it would be impossible to simulate 'hard' and 'soft'-tyres for sure.
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 25, 2014 07:53PM
Posted by: kedy89
TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
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> When it's possible to have different steering
> wheels for each team, why shouldn't it be possible
> that every team has different types of tyres? Is
> there any tweak avaible for that? :-)


You can't have different steering wheels for teams, you can only set up mods to automatically load the steering wheel of the selected team, but ingame all teams will have the same wheel.




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Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 26, 2014 05:37AM
Posted by: rracunis
As I said in the previous post , you can have the EXTERNAL steering wheel specific for each team but you have to make many modifications in the CSM to load the steering wheels and helmets properly .
Here you have the files , images not available : [www.grandprixgames.org]
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 26, 2014 07:23PM
Posted by: TGF1DRIVER
klausfeldmann schrieb:
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> TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When it's possible to have different steering
> > wheels for each team, why shouldn't it be
> possible
> > that every team has different types of tyres?
> Is
> > there any tweak avaible for that? :-)
>
> Graphics and game behaviour are two dead seriously
> different things. With a tweak it could be
> possible to have more than 2 types of tyres in the
> graphic apperance, but it would be impossible to
> simulate 'hard' and 'soft'-tyres for sure.

I only want the graphic appearance. :-) Do you know if there is already a tweak avaible? (Y)
Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 26, 2014 07:28PM
Posted by: kedy89
rracunis schrieb:
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> As I said in the previous post , you can have the
> EXTERNAL steering wheel specific for each team but
> you have to make many modifications in the CSM to
> load the steering wheels and helmets properly .
>
> Here you have the files , images not available :
> [www.grandprixgames.org]
> 027854#msg-1027854


Sorry, forgot about those with the arms & wheel attached to the helmetshape ;)




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Re: Team specific steering wheels
Date: July 26, 2014 11:47PM
Posted by: klausfeldmann
TGF1DRIVER schrieb:
> I only want the graphic appearance. :-) Do you
> know if there is already a tweak avaible? (Y)

Do we talk about the car's tyres? If so, there is a possibillity to have two different tyre textures in-game. In the performance file you can find this editable section:

[Tyres]
Team #00=1
Team #01=1
Team #02=0
Team #03=0
Team #04=1
Team #05=1
Team #06=1
Team #07=1
Team #08=0
Team #09=0
Team #10=0

It was originally implemented for the Bridgestone ("1";) and the Michelin tyres ("0";). By editing these values you can give different tyres to the teams. But of course there are limitations:
1. Not more than two different types are possible.
2. The values are static. So, it still is impossible, that the teams change between 'hard'- and 'soft'-tyres within a race.

I think there is no tweak to expand this behaviour. At least I don't know one.
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