2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***

Posted by Toki 
2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 19, 2013 06:43PM
Posted by: Toki
20, 21, 22 September 2013
Marina Bay Street Circuit
First Grand Prix: 2008

Circuit Length: 5.065 km
Race Distance: 308.828 km
Number of Laps: 61
Lap Record: 1:45.599 - K Raikkonen (2008)
Most wins drivers: Fernando Alonso/Sebastian Vettel (2)
Most wins constructors: Ferrari/Red Bull-Renault (2)
2012 Winner: Sebastian Vettel *Red Bull-Renault*

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The Real Story of the Race was that the Renault's fell apart and the Ferrari's didn't.
Rosberg headed for the sliproad and retired, probably because of Nicotin starvation they have still not given him a helmet with a little hole in it.
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 19, 2013 07:41PM
Posted by: J i m
Looking forward to this, it'd be the first time I should be able to watch the live coverage of Singapore Grand Prix, in the past I was always working.

Will probably miss Friday Practice though... moving house.

Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 19, 2013 09:11PM
Posted by: Ferrari2007
Nice to have a thread before the weekend :)

Here's a nostalgia piece that I've done for RichlandF1. Focuses on the 2008 'Crashgate' race.

[richlandf1.com]

Comments and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I've got my eye on Rosberg for pole.



Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 20, 2013 04:21PM
Posted by: EC83
Should be a good race, I always love the long ones as there's more opportunity for things to go wrong and drivers to lose concentration and make mistakes.

I think Lewis has a great chance of getting pole.



Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 21, 2013 04:18PM
Posted by: andrzej pilaszkiewicz
The quali has just finished... Does anyone here see the end of Vettel's victories ?
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 21, 2013 04:53PM
Posted by: gav
Yeah, he won't finish tomorrow... but he'll still cruise the title.
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 12:02AM
Posted by: Carlitox
Normally I don't wish for bad things to happen to someone, but just this time would Vettel's gearbox break so that we get a different winner!? ;)

Jokes aside, he is tremendous. I'm not a fan but he does deserve it. He may have the best car but we F1 fans know that with no skills that's useless. Kudos.



Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 08:47AM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
rosberg and vettel (the second one yet again) destroyed their teamates. Obviously nico king on street races (and incredibly those were the onese schuey beat him last year on pace).

masa showed what a driver he is once again with a lap almost 0,1 faster than Nando. Just gives you goosbumps how good the brazilian is at that track. He was .6 of a second faster than Lewis Hamilton and about a second faster than Kimi in 2008!!!! He has only 5 cars between and victory and we know what starts this ferrari can make. So lets hope that finally Massa will get what he deserved 5 years ago - the illusionate Singapore Win

Esteban Gutiierez... WTF???? Where did this pace come from?

My prediction:

1. Rosberg
2. Massa
3. Grosjean
4. Alonso
5. Hamilton

oppps, I forgot vettel on the top of them :P :P

What do you think?
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 10:18AM
Posted by: smoglessbutton4
You're not the only one who's surprised bu Gutierrez! O_O



GPGSL -
GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 11:00AM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
smoglessbutton4 Wrote:
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> You're not the only one who's surprised bu
> Gutierrez! O_O


looking at your logo man, i just imagined a formula 1 car coloured in lila and being put the MILKA logo on :D. It would be great.

especially if the milka - car could beat all the rest. imagine a headline in the news:

"red bull and milka occupy the front row" :D:D
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 04:23PM
Posted by: Muks_C
boring race, came alive in the last 15 laps, the last 5 were very exciting with close racing.




RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 04:49PM
Posted by: gav
That was @#$%&, and I don't think you can blame Pirelli at all - cars just couldn't follow each other until we got the mixed tyre strategies at the end, courtesy of the safety car.
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 06:30PM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
gav Wrote:
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> That was @#$%&, and I don't think you can blame
> Pirelli at all - cars just couldn't follow each
> other until we got the mixed tyre strategies at
> the end, courtesy of the safety car.


from what was this caused in your view?
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 06:45PM
Posted by: gav
Cars too evenly matched on a circuit that doesn't lend itself to side-by-side action I suppose.

Perhaps the one thing you can blame Pirelli of is creating a tyre that teams don't want to push over the edge. You could race the tyre, as shown in the last quarter of the race, but perhaps drivers were scared of flat-spotting a tyre by taking a lunge.

Circumstances just came together to make a boring race I suppose.
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 22, 2013 07:05PM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
i agree with you on that.

it struck me that in the beginning they told webber to back oof instead of telling him to attack

they told some other drivers the same (e.g. alonso did not fight so hard against di resta in my view).

it looks unacceptable to have 600+ hp cars with boost and drs and to tell them to preserve resources from lap nr.1

Damn, if only nico could have made the first chicane properly
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 23, 2013 12:31AM
Posted by: Ferrari2007
Pretty frustrating reading comment after comment across the internet rinsing the stewards for giving Alonso and Webber a reprimand.

They were not given for Alonso giving Webber a lift, it was because Mark ran out onto the track, while Fred stopped his car dead in the middle of the track just after the entry to the corner.

Both Merc's had to dodge him.

From what I've heard they were lucky not to be more heavily punished.

Webber got his 10-place grid penalty because it was his third reprimand of the season.



Races: 163 - Wins: 23 - Pole Positions: 24 - Fastest Laps: 22
Season 9: Constructors' Champions
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 23, 2013 01:38AM
Posted by: n00binio
this site has a clip of the incident as seen from a spectator: [www.blick.ch]

i thought it was quite dangerous indeed



used to be GPGSL's Nick Heidfeld
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 23, 2013 07:16AM
Posted by: smoglessbutton4
Thing is, they would've been reprimanded regardless of where the incident took place (N)



GPGSL -
GPGSL-3 - Pizza Party Racing manager and driver
Nations Cup - Team Scotland manager
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 23, 2013 09:36PM
Posted by: mitadumapaga
this quote is so sad for alonso, but so true:

"Alonso will keep pushing, as he always does, but everyone already knows how this story ends."
Re: 2013 Singapore Grand Prix ***Spoilers***
Date: September 25, 2013 01:14PM
Posted by: J i m
Ferrari2007 Wrote:
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> Pretty frustrating reading comment after comment
> across the internet rinsing the stewards for
> giving Alonso and Webber a reprimand.

Ah yes. Without wishing to sound too snobbish, I do tend to believe that the vast amount of internet comments you refer to come from people who don't really know what they're talking about. I find that a lot of internet comment is usually influenced by silly factors such as patriotic or team loyalty or what their personal idea of what a race should be is. Not many people seem to use the actual reality to formulate their arguments on. And those who do are drowned out by the contingent who mistake unsubstantiated opinion for fact.

You ought to see the amount of idiocy on the Williams Facebook page ;-)

It's why I prefer coming here to discuss F1. Because it's small, quiet and entirely made up of people who understand the sport really quite well.

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