So I am leaving my old thread behind and move on with this on. I will put all the updates in here and progress of the team. Hereby a couple of test renders [URL=http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20648734.jpg][IMG]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9601/20648734.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10510170.jpg][IMG]http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5852/10510170.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Ok I have a new update you might not see the difference but a buddy of mine is doing the paint job now. [URL=http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf109.jpg][IMG]http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4308/tf109.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf109update.jpg][IMG]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7727/tf109update.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,848301#msg-848301Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:54:01 +0200 Phorum 5.3-dev http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866856#msg-866856 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866856#msg-866856 fongu Grand Prix 4Tue, 12 May 2009 15:29:49 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866853#msg-866853 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866853#msg-866853-------------------------------------------------------
> Kewel..
> Dont get me wrong Bud but if you dont know what a
> z modeler is you better NOT TRY to modify a shape
> with this tool.
>
> My advice is: grab a tutorial and read as much as
> you can.
>
> Zmodeler is a 3d modeling tool wich allows you to
> build a bunch of stuffs in 3d.. mapping and ect
> etc


lol, i just dont know what smoothing is :P. im not modifying it, i just wanna know :D.]]> kewell_fever Grand Prix 4Tue, 12 May 2009 15:05:29 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866822#msg-866822 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866822#msg-866822 josekast Grand Prix 4Tue, 12 May 2009 12:39:43 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866766#msg-866766 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866766#msg-866766Dont get me wrong Bud but if you dont know what a z modeler is you better NOT TRY to modify a shape with this tool.

My advice is: grab a tutorial and read as much as you can.

Zmodeler is a 3d modeling tool wich allows you to build a bunch of stuffs in 3d.. mapping and ect etc]]> pimpones1 Grand Prix 4Tue, 12 May 2009 00:49:30 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866762#msg-866762 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866762#msg-866762Don't let the smoothing foul you that's just for the pretty picture.






And the Z_Modeler car

]]> Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Tue, 12 May 2009 00:42:42 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866585#msg-866585 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866585#msg-866585 kewell_fever Grand Prix 4Mon, 11 May 2009 11:15:05 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866559#msg-866559 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866559#msg-866559-------------------------------------------------------
> what is smoothing? Is it a tool or has to be done
> manually?


you can work on normal smoothing using z modeler.
It has an usefull tool for it.]]> pimpones1 Grand Prix 4Mon, 11 May 2009 02:51:24 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866317#msg-866317 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866317#msg-866317 kewell_fever Grand Prix 4Sun, 10 May 2009 02:45:02 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866190#msg-866190 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,866190#msg-866190 iaquinta Grand Prix 4Sat, 09 May 2009 15:54:25 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864749#msg-864749 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864749#msg-864749Wire frame on (Shading-wire frame on shaded) this way you'll see edge flow on your shape without reflections and shadows. Study other peoples wire framed shapes. And I hope that little tutorial I gave you would help keeping your shapes smooth after bunch of exporting.]]> soulbringer Grand Prix 4Sun, 03 May 2009 17:15:25 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864244#msg-864244 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864244#msg-864244-------------------------------------------------------
> You find that making smooth game models is an art
> that needs a bit of experience ;-) especially when
> you're thinking about smooth normals.


I think it is an art bro and I have the utmost respect for people who can make their cars smooth without increasing their poly-count. I just think the program I use isn't that easy to make it smooth.]]> Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Fri, 01 May 2009 03:20:23 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864121#msg-864121 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864121#msg-864121 fongu Grand Prix 4Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:11:11 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864104#msg-864104 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864104#msg-864104-------------------------------------------------------
> They're so good mate, but try not to use smooth,
> because once exporting for GP4 will create rare
> polys and too much of them... that will become a
> 2Mb LOD... Also, check air entries (sidepods) that
> are way to big... and Kizz told all about textures
> ;)
>
> I have to insist, I love it ;)

You mean of the body ? You got me kinda confused and it won't be a smoothed toyota cause that would give over 500.000 polys although I might do it anyways as a fun project.

Thanks for the input]]> Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:08:01 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864098#msg-864098 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864098#msg-864098
I have to insist, I love it ;)]]> raulongo Grand Prix 4Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:30:06 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864075#msg-864075 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864075#msg-864075 fongu Grand Prix 4Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:00:34 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864065#msg-864065 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,864065#msg-864065

Left is smoothed and right is unsmoothed



Topview

]]> Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:02:12 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862534#msg-862534 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862534#msg-862534-------------------------------------------------------
> model looks fine, but the textures need some work,
> instead of cutting logos from pictures use images
> from google and also body lines need adding
>
> also i've noticed you've used the brakes from
> craig and my renault's? and you didnt use a
> texture on them either?


Well what can I say bud, I handed it out to frybender and he took it for mapping and painting I also noticed that the brakes where different then the orginals I used.(I hope he asked for permission though,cause I don't want to see the brown matter hit the rotating device)
I don't know if the cars use standard brakes just to keep the file lower but this is what I will use when the car goes out for rfactor "see pics"




]]> Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:38:47 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862399#msg-862399 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862399#msg-862399
also i've noticed you've used the brakes from craig and my renault's? and you didnt use a texture on them either?]]> kizz Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:02:27 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862364#msg-862364 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862364#msg-862364 frybender Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:34:34 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862356#msg-862356 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862356#msg-862356but it's okay ;)]]> Kimi-The-Champ Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:06:18 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862327#msg-862327 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862327#msg-862327-------------------------------------------------------
> You're right ! Work perfectly :)Thanks kewell
> fever :)
>



>
>


the car body seems to be higher than the front wing]]> jvinu2000 Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:05:30 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862326#msg-862326 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862326#msg-862326 SchueyFan Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:02:09 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862307#msg-862307 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862307#msg-862307 psic0tico Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:19:27 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862305#msg-862305 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862305#msg-862305I still keep a good quality for 773 ko (about 40 % of the original shape), 947 ko is better (about 50 %) but textures are a bit deformed when I apply them on the shape (Toyota panasonic logos on the nose and the "D" of Denso and "T" of Toyota on the shark wing).

I kept original mirrors and visor by exporting them from the original shape and re-importing them after reducing the shape.





Maybe between 30 and 40%, it would be fine...]]> Excalibur Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:37:34 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862299#msg-862299 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862299#msg-862299 Dutch_Can Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:29:58 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862297#msg-862297 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862297#msg-862297 ptclaus98 Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:21:54 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862288#msg-862288 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862288#msg-862288
matt]]> schroeder Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:00:05 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862284#msg-862284 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862284#msg-862284 SHEEPY Grand Prix 4Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:49:09 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862211#msg-862211 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862211#msg-862211PS
I don't care how big the file is ITS RELEASED!!!! :)
YESSSSSSSS]]> MARSALA Grand Prix 4Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:34:26 +0200 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862190#msg-862190 http://www.grandprixgames.org/read.php?4,848301,862190#msg-862190 Gigi4 Grand Prix 4Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:23:06 +0200